Smoking in Pubs

[mushroom25]

Report from the Netherlands:-
http://www.thesun.co....-ban-stubbed-out.html

what chance of something similar here?

[Khandro]

Perhaps the answer to ummmm's dillema, re. which pub would you go to if things were to change, would be a compromise; to go to a pub with a smoke room (as was once the case everywhere), and just go into it whenever your partner needs a fag. Certainly better than standing out in the rain!

[chrissa1]

The voice of reason at last Khandro.

[joeluke]

Why can't smokers go to the pub and simply just not have a fag for a few hours?

The smoking ban's here to stay in this country so smokers need to get used to it and stop whinging

[ummmm]

Khandro.....I welcome the ban. I would rather sit in a smoke free pub. If I have to go out in the rain then so be it.

[DrFilth]

Hundreds of Pubs Close Due to Smoking Ban


September 10, 2010| Stop Smoking

Author: Jonathan Moore



A recent report has claimed that around 700 pubs in Scotland have been forced to close since the smoking ban was introduced on the 26th of March in 2006.

The ban was introduced by the government officials 4 years ago after much pressure from both health experts and the public. It meant that smoking was prohibited from inside any public enclosure. The law was met with much resistance by a number of industries, with the pub industry being particularly opposed to it.

Decline
Now, a new report has documented the damaging effects of the ban on the pub industry in Scotland. Researchers used data from the industry to look for a relationship between the ban and the decline in the amount of functioning pubs.

The report was backed by the Save Our Pubs & Clubs campaign. It stated that the ban was more influential on the reduction of the number of pubs than both the recession and the emergence of cheap alcohol deals at major supermarkets.

“This research shows how badly Scottish pubs have been hit by the smoking ban,” said Paul Waterson, who is the president of the Scottish Licensed Trade Association. “Pubs are still going out of business every week and yet we hear calls for outdoor bans and even more regulation,” said Mr Waterson.

[ummmm]

But DrF.....the smoking ban and the recession weren't far apart. I know what you said about a local club (clubs are doing really well here because they are cheap)

I went out for lunch yesterday. £35 for food. £21 for drinks. 3 drinks each...is that affordable?

[naomi24]

I don't smoke, but I have no objection to people smoking if they want to, and I really don't see why pubs (and public buildings) aren't allowed to offer smoking rooms. I think it's totally irrational to ban people from doing something that is perfectly legal, and that seems to me to be the simplest solution.

[DrFilth]

what you spend your money on is up to you , spend it at the pub or football or cigs or betting shop etc

it is your choice

some people on here like to say you have a choice BUT do you have a choice ?

[ummmm]

Yes we do have a choice.

[boxtops]

Dozens of pubs have already closed here in my town, there are only half a dozen main ones left now - thankfully, not all chains. The smoking/food ban combo hit some badly, there is more money in food than in beer, but they chose to take out the food option rather than risk losing their smoking customers. Then the smoking ban came in, by which time people couldn't afford to go out for meals in pubs on a regular basis any more. IMO, that's how it is for us.

[DrFilth]

ummmm think of the question
smoking is banned in pubs

so if you smoke why go to the pub

no point in me going to see my friend , he smokes so he will be sat at home

i smoke so i will have to stay outside

[ChuckFickens]

I've not read all the answers, so sorry if I'm repeating..

But even if they did get rid of the smoking ban in pubs, would that bring people back to them now, or have people got used to the social gatherings now being more at peoples houses so that's where they'd stay. (especially as it's cheaper)

[ummmm]

Do you smoke that much that you have to stay outside?

[boxtops]

Nobody smokes indoors in most houses now (well, not amongst my friends and family, anyway) so even if you have gatherings or meals at home, the smokers still have to leg it outside to have a puff.

[DrFilth]

ummmm i just would not go in the place full stop

chuck a lot of people have now got into that habit and i don't think it is easy to change back.
some go over for a cigs and booze run ,
sky tv, match on, cheap beer what more could you want

[ummmm]

It doesn't bother me. I'll just pop out for a cig when I feel like it. I'm not a big smoker when I'm out though....I talk too much :-)

I was brought up in a pub.It seemed everyone smoked back then. The door to upstairs was behind the bar...opening that door on Saturday afternoon and being hit with the smoke is not something I would welcome back.

[DrFilth]

hang about just trying to upload a photo

[DrFilth]

just had this delivered, instead of spending all that money going out for so little

http://s655.photobuck...=view¤t=IMG.jpg

stay in and you could have 2 curries nan and chips listen to the music you like and
you could buy a decent bottle of bowmore islay malt and some cigs


see how i get you a better value deal for your money :)

[ummmm]

You can't.....

[Khandro]

When I think of the happy hours I've spent with good company, conversation and laughter
in English pubs, Dr Filth sitting at home with his curry and chips and a bottle of whiskey sounds somewhat jejune.