If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/39trofw

A typical Guardian report.

Why is it that the police are always accused of being the 'Bogey Men'?

/// Susan Meadows, 55, an English literature lecturer at Roehampton University, said her son was "hit on the head by a police truncheon. He said it was the hugest blow he ever felt in his life.///

He hasn't experienced anything yet. If he didn't expect to get hurt he should have kept away.

/// "The big question is how you can use police on horseback charging across when there are 14- and 15-year-olds in there," ///

Simple the 14 and 15 year old's parents should not allow them to protest.

Do these trouble makers expect to dish out all the violence and then expect the police to turn the other cheek?

[Sqad]

mike....agreed.....but as jno quite rightly points out "it´s not a matter of IQ"

[joeluke]

The student thugs would have been better off doing what they are supposed to do......by actually going to their lectures

Their violent protests will not make one iota of difference to student fee levels.......this is England, not France

[Huderon]

So, let's see if I have this straight ... 14-, 15- and 16-year-olds are the ones who are going to be affected by the changes they are protesting against, but they shouldn't be allowed to go and protest ? And because there is the possibility that some troublemakers will use the protest to cause mayhem, people should not excercise their right to protest peacefully ?

The lad who got hit on the head is 20. And I'm fairly sure that any policeman knows full well that hitting someone on the head with a truncheon is going to cause damage to that person. So why on earth was a policeman hitting someone on the head ? It's not as if the lad was armed to the teeth and charging the police lines. Perhaps he was argiuing loudly, shouting and yelling if you like, but that is hardly a threat to someone armed with a truncheon.

My guess, yes there were troublemakers in the crowd, and yes there were policeman who over reacted ... and one day it won't be injuries reported, it'll be deaths

[piggynose]

who are riot police? legalised thugs imo

[what..the?]

people are saying how are the police able to spot the trouble makers they have to kettle the lot.... the f ing ones with their hoods up and things covering their faces...all the pictures of the trouble show these thugs who quite frankly are more likely to be frilly knicker wear gay homosexuals who are under gone a sex change then they are higher education students fighting for a course..you could see they were so dumb they couldn't get into kindergarten never mind university, They should have all been picked up by police van a placed in a nunnery or at least hit with beanbag/rubber bullets it might knock some intelligence into them...

[mardyfish]

younger people (i.e. 14/15/16) are also protesting about the withdrawal of the EMA as well as the tuition fees issue.

[what..the?]

'cause' sorry

[trapped]

what...the? ( show these thugs who quite frankly are more likely to be frilly knicker wear gay homosexuals who are under gone a sex change )

Do you speak from having personal experience with these people

[mollykins]

Hopefully it will black-out.

Can't agree more hudderman, a couple of my friends went to the protest, at least they made sure they picked up the work they would be missing out on and compelted it before they returned, rather than using it as an excuse to not go to the lesson at all.

Mardy that's probably true aswell . . . although i don't get it, and now, never will . . .

[jno]

gay homosexuals, well, they're the worst sort.

[craft1948]

So all the protesting, and all the damage to property and people has resulted in what exactly.............the fees vote got through. If you disagree with something in this country, not France, the only way you can effect change is via the ballot box, or are 'students' too thick to realise this.

[trapped]

Can you trust the person you voted for ?

[craft1948]

I didn't say you could trapped..........but no matter how much you protest about things the government will vote through laws popular or not.

[trapped]

Like the Poll Tax

[mardyfish]

But when the people that you tick the box to vote for then go back on significant pre-election pledges and policies, surely people will get disenchanted with the system and fewer will see the point of voting and will look to find other ways to make their views apparent.

I am not saying that makes the rioting (not protesting) right, but it is not too that students are too thick to realise that voting is the way to bring about change, but that politicians are too thick/arrogant/power hungry to realise that they need to be trustworthy and more respectful of the electorate.

[craft1948]

Welcome to the real world.....