Latin Phrase

[rsvp]

-A friend has asked me if I know the translation of Benivolenta in fortis fortuna.
Alas I don't - can anyone help please? (and this is how she has spelled it)

[fiction-factory]

It's a bit like fortune favours the brave but this looks a bit like a mixture of Latin and something else

[Jomlett]

From latin: Goodwill to the brave

[rsvp]

FF Thank you, I did look up that phrase but as you say - it doesn't fit ( hope it's not something rude!!!!!)

[rsvp]

Thank you jomlett - I would never have got that.

[Peter Pedant]

summing like

good fortune in the brave

we do have a Latinist on the books - Mosaic I think

I think itis a gloss on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_favours_the_bold

[bhg481]

Benevolent in fortis fortuna - fortune favours the bold

[rsvp]

peter pedant and bhg481 I did look up that but it wasn't exactly right - thank you for answering though.

[Peter Pedant]

erm no that is normally audaces fortuna adiuvat .... see the wiki entry

o in fortis is he wrong case - fortibus or forte - o it could be fortes ( into the brave )

[Mosaic]

The great scholar Google Translate has this as 'goodwill to the brave' but it doesn't ring as a Roman Latin phrase, rather an early modern aristocratic whatsit.

[rsvp]

Thank you Mosaic - am going to pass it back to her with all your comments and links - am very grateful to all for their input.

[Jackdaw33]

Fortis is an alternative to fortes, accusative, which can be preceded by in

[rsvp]

More info for her Jackdaw33 - thank you.

[Jackdaw33]

The first word should be benevolentia

[rsvp]

When I tried to look it up Jd33 I also thought that (although without your knowledge!) but this is the spelling she gave. I think it's embroidered on a garment she is thinking of buying and wants to be sure she's not wearing anything contentious or abusive.

[Jackdaw33]

Nothing abusive, just a mangled version of the original Latin phrase, stick to Fortune Favours The Brave

[rsvp]

Thank you for the reassurance Jackdaw33 - I'll pass that on.

[Jackdaw33]

Reminds me of the time many years ago when a group of archaeology students placed a fake clay bowl at the site with the inscription

Itis apis spotanda fineo ne

Latin scholars were baffled, can you do better?

[rsvp]

would this be something to do with the function of the aforementioned pot and a reference as to why it was planted?

[Jackdaw33]

Could be, the point is that they are Latin words but make no sense. The trick is to conflate the letters and insert spaces so as to produce an English phrase..

[rsvp]

Ohhhh -can see it so clearly now - eyes are open and I will never read a foreign phrase the same way again!