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Where does the saying " Whip Round" come from please.
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This colloquial phrase refers to taking a collection for some informal purpose, such as buying somebody a present. It�s mainly British and Commonwealth usage, not much known in the USA. Its history links the hunting field, the British parliament and the officers� mess in a regiment.
The original term was whipper-in, a term still used in fox hunting in Britain for an assistant huntsman who stops the hounds from straying by using his whip to drive them back into the main body of the pack. By the 1840s at the latest, this had been abbreviated to just whip.
In Parliament, there have long been officials of each party whose job it is to make sure that MPs attend the votes. In practice their role has always been wider than this � they�re the disciplinarians of the House of Commons who make sure MPs don�t step out of line or do anything silly, and especially that they vote according to their party�s call. By the latter part of the eighteenth century they had started to be jokingly referred to as whippers-in; by the 1840s they too were commonly called whips (as indeed they still are, and not only in the British parliament by any means).
This use of whip became broadened to refer to any appeal for people to take part in some activity � as we still say, to whip up interest or enthusiasm. In officers� messes, it was common at this period for those attending who wanted more wine than the official issue at dinner to contribute a set amount if they wanted to continue to imbibe � an orderly went round the table with a wine glass into which sums were placed. This collection was also called a whip.
By extension, any call for money among the members of a group was also a whip. The first recorded use is in Thomas Hughes� novel of 1861, Tom Brown at Oxford: �If they would stand a whip of ten shillings a man, they might have a new boat�. By the 1870s, this term had turned by an obvious process
This colloquial phrase refers to taking a collection for some informal purpose, such as buying somebody a present. It�s mainly British and Commonwealth usage, not much known in the USA. Its history links the hunting field, the British parliament and the officers� mess in a regiment.
The original term was whipper-in, a term still used in fox hunting in Britain for an assistant huntsman who stops the hounds from straying by using his whip to drive them back into the main body of the pack. By the 1840s at the latest, this had been abbreviated to just whip.
In Parliament, there have long been officials of each party whose job it is to make sure that MPs attend the votes. In practice their role has always been wider than this � they�re the disciplinarians of the House of Commons who make sure MPs don�t step out of line or do anything silly, and especially that they vote according to their party�s call. By the latter part of the eighteenth century they had started to be jokingly referred to as whippers-in; by the 1840s they too were commonly called whips (as indeed they still are, and not only in the British parliament by any means).
This use of whip became broadened to refer to any appeal for people to take part in some activity � as we still say, to whip up interest or enthusiasm. In officers� messes, it was common at this period for those attending who wanted more wine than the official issue at dinner to contribute a set amount if they wanted to continue to imbibe � an orderly went round the table with a wine glass into which sums were placed. This collection was also called a whip.
By extension, any call for money among the members of a group was also a whip. The first recorded use is in Thomas Hughes� novel of 1861, Tom Brown at Oxford: �If they would stand a whip of ten shillings a man, they might have a new boat�. By the 1870s, this term had turned by an obvious process
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I actually thought it was a boxing term.
In the old days, people would throw money into the ring between rounds.
Whip hands,or members of the promoting team with whips would encourage the spectators to throw money in by going round with there whips.
The round within the round was then called the whip round....
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I actually thought it was a boxing term.
In the old days, people would throw money into the ring between rounds.
Whip hands,or members of the promoting team with whips would encourage the spectators to throw money in by going round with there whips.
The round within the round was then called the whip round....
Click here and read the last sentence. It reveals what's missing from Formergp's earlier response. Thus, whips were contributions to a kitty and - since a hat or whatever would be passed round the assembled company to collect these - the action of doing so became known as a whip round.
It has nothing to do with boxing...unless, of course, someone decided to have a whip round to reward a couple of boxers for their efforts!
It has nothing to do with boxing...unless, of course, someone decided to have a whip round to reward a couple of boxers for their efforts!
QM, the nearest to a whip-round in boxing is called 'nobbins'. When the boxers had fought well, the crowd would show its appreciation by throwing coins into the ring, to be collected and split between the two men.It's done much, if at all, nowadays,. I last witnessed it about twenty years ago when the contestants were young fighters on the undercard ( bottom of the bill).They wouldn't have been on much money and certainly appreciated the crowd's enthusiastic generosity and encouragement
QM, the members of answerpool.com ['AP'] send their regards. That was founded by ex-members of the defunct Jeeves Q & A, answerpoint.They remember you as , they think,Monsterquizzer and asked after you. (AP had its sixth anniversary this week)
QM, the members of answerpool.com ['AP'] send their regards. That was founded by ex-members of the defunct Jeeves Q & A, answerpoint.They remember you as , they think,Monsterquizzer and asked after you. (AP had its sixth anniversary this week)
How kind of them! Thank you for that, Fred. Please pass my best regards on to them in turn. Congratulations on Answerpool's 6th anniversary.
When Answerpool opened, I was actually invited to be - I cannot now remember the actual title - a moderator or some such, which I accepted. However, I rapidly became disillusioned with the way the new site was going and simply drifted away, having found AnswerBank on this side of the Pond. (Don't tell them that, of course!)
I was, indeed, Monsterquizzer there, but that name was too long for this site, so I had to modify it to its current format.
I have never understood why Answerpoint had to go. There were quite a few names there I still remember kindly.
Cheers
When Answerpool opened, I was actually invited to be - I cannot now remember the actual title - a moderator or some such, which I accepted. However, I rapidly became disillusioned with the way the new site was going and simply drifted away, having found AnswerBank on this side of the Pond. (Don't tell them that, of course!)
I was, indeed, Monsterquizzer there, but that name was too long for this site, so I had to modify it to its current format.
I have never understood why Answerpoint had to go. There were quite a few names there I still remember kindly.
Cheers
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