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[gardenmad]

I can't understand 49 down - I thought Italy's second longest river was the Tiber - but it does not fit. Is there another name? I have -d-g- Help, please - much appreciated

[Minoru]

Adige

[daneswalk]

agree with minoru

[phizzy]

yep !

[sarumite]

Different sites on google give both of these rivers as being the second longest !

From what I have found, the Adige is 255 mls long, whilst the Tiber is 252 mls long.

Adige is of course the only solution to fit the grid.

[gardenmad]

Thank you all, I have found it myself now - how wrong can you get? Anyway, finished the thing now. I think the cryptic is much more fun - anyone agree?

[sarumite]

Agree gardenmad .. cryptics (ab)normally represent an interesting challenge! (S)

[Strix]

The cryptic took me longer than the GK (24mins)! But I am not convinced by my answer (nineteenth) for 15ac of the cryptic; just can't see it being right.

[kayakamina]

I agree with you and Sarumite.

Whereas any competent Googler should be able to finish most GK crosswords, even the on-line dictionaries/word finders and anagram aids do not mean a cryptic puzzle can be solved.

[kayakamina]

Strix

I also have nineteenth. Not quite a score - Twent(ieth)

[Strix]

kayakamina - thanks for that, I was trying to work it round to being at the nineteenth hole and therefore unable to score on the links!!
Strix

[Aquagility]

Agreed that cryptics are more fun, but one learns more with GKs. Not that I remember any of it!

To business. DTGK 15a Tonka or Tonca?

[sarumite]

I'm stuck on one .. 25d Man turned fertiliser over (4)

?M?L (assuming snare drum is correct for 26a)

Can any of you please help here?

[kayakamina]

Hi S

Emil.....Lime

Snare Drum

[tyrepill]

Lime

[sarumite]

Many thanks K and tyrepill ... it's always a short one!!

[Muzz]

Aquagility - Encarta dictionary has TONKA bean.

[Aquagility]

Thanks, muzz. Just to confuse the issue, Chambers gives Tonga=Tonka!

[ikarus]

Thought the cryptic was VERY easy today; almost as if there was a new compiler who hadn't quite got the hang of it.

[gardenmad]

I wish I thought the cryptic one very easy today - what on earth is the one about feeling lost? (Sorry am upstairs and xword downstairs) it's four letters, h-m- last one for me, can't get it. Thanks.

[Aquagility]

Numb (feeling is lost)