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Graham-W | 11:59 Thu 20th Aug 2009 | Science
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If I had two floats, one rigid (like a glass sphere) and one flexible (like a balloon) both containing 1 litre of air and hung from both a 1.2 kg weight, then dropped them into the sea, what would happen?
I imagine the flexible one would gradually collapse with the water pressure and become less and less buoyant (displacing less volume) and continue to sink whereas the rigid one would reach an equilibrium at a certain depth and stay at that depth.
Am I right or am I missing something?
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Firstly ascertain whether they would float or sink.

1 litre of air will displace 1 litre of seawater
1 litre of seawater weighs about 1.03 kg

An attached weight of 1.2 kg will therefore cause both to sink.

You are correct with your assumptions about the flexible one - it would sink with increasing acceleration as the air gets compressed. It will of course reach a terminal velocity because of drag.

You are not correct about the solid one. Seawater is virtually incompressible so the density of the seawater will not change enough with depth to counter the weight of 1.2 kg plus the weight of the rigid sphere. It will accelerate slowly at first until drag causes it to reach a terminal velocity. A sphere is the best shape to withstand external pressure but eventually (if the sea is deep enough) it will catastrophically collapse and accelerate to a higher terminal velocity and continue to the bottom.


HOWEVER:
All that only applies if the weights have zero volume.

You don't say what the weights are made of or what their volumes are.

Assuming iron weights:
Based on a density of iron (7.874) and seawater (1.03) I calculate that a 1.2 kg iron weight would weigh 1.043 Kg when immersed in seawater, which is only just in excess of the 1.03 Kg of seawater displaced by the balloon.
The net downwards force will be just 13g
Apologies to other scientists.
I have committed a cardinal sin above by omitting the units from my density figures.

The missing units are either g/ml or kg/L
Hidden depths, gen2?
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Thanks Gen2. I hadn't considered the non-compressibility of water. I fooled myself thinking the density of the water would increase with pressure.
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Of course, the answer would be different if the weights were 1.2 kg of polystyrene foam. (VBG)

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