Sir Henry Morton Stanley

[grumpy01]

I have just seen on Breakfast TV that the people of Denbigh are voting this weekend.What are they voting on I hear you ask,well it is on whether his statue in the town should be removed.Admittedly a little more civilised than what happened to the Edward Colston statue in Bristol but surely even the “woke” brigade have to accept you cannot rewrite history but have to learn from it.

[emmie]

indeed you do have to learn from it, this pulling down statues because it offends some is patently ludicrous. time it stopped.

[johnny.5]

who has the casting vote ?
Dr Livingstone I presume

[naomi24]

The 'woke' brigade need their bumps felt.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58919358

[ichkeria]

I'm not sure anyone is rewriting history, though.

Are they?

[emmie]

yes they are, denigrating those that don't fit in with their agenda, wokeism at it's worst.

[johnny.5]

cultural zeitgeistism ?

[bednobs]

A statue does not represent the whole of the person and everything they ever did. It's art.
I think it's a great idea to have a vote as it shuts any argument down in both sides

[davebro]

//I think it's a great idea to have a vote as it shuts any argument down in both sides//

As did the 2016 EU referendum!

[Peter Pedant]

can someone tell me what zeitgeitism is
and how it fits in here?

[douglas9401]

If we as a country can erase history then those who can never know of the past can be programmed by the po-faced control freaks for ever more.

[johnny.5]

zeitgeistism
it's a word I made up

from:-
zeitgeist
the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.

[Togo]

Wait until the statue of Victoria falls.

[Googlewerenohelp]

Someone once told me that the word "woke" has "been weaponised by the far right" ..it made me laugh :-)

[jno]

looks as though they have learnt from it.

[bednobs]

"If we as a country can erase history ... "
Taking a statue down is not erasing history. A statue is a representation of what someone's face and body look like. It is not the person, neither is it the sum of their life. Taking a statue down, or replacing it with something else does not erase history. What happened still happened whenever it happened. It seems rather hysterical to suggest that removing a statue in nowhere, uk. Suddenly means this person an all that they did, good or bad is erased

[jno]

stop being grown-up, bednobs :-)