Why do people die?

[Elderman]

To answer such questions, it will be a help for us to know

Who has the answers. Is it the atheist s? Is it evolution? Or does Science have the answer ? well all claim to have answers, at least insofar as death due to aging is concerned. But the Bible does have all the answers.
But there are more lies told about the dead than the living, that no one seem to agree on the subject.

[Quizmonster]

For crying out loud, will you lot stop encouraging him! If nobody bothered to respond, I'm sure he'd go away. (This is addressed to the rational ABers here, not to the OP.)

[naomi24]

Ahh, where's your compassion, QM? We're being charitable by helping one of the afflicted to get his Brownie points from his church. ;o)

[andy-hughes]

Elderman - I don;t really see what you are trying to get at here.

You have your views, backed up as you understand it, by Biblical writings.

Others have their views, that you believe in something that is unfounded.

There is no common gground here - you are doing nothing to seriously prove your case - and no-one is taking your views seriously - so why do you persist in posting these odd non sequiturs?

[Elderman]

Well Naomi you say you know your Bible?
God’s servants have long recognized God as the Judge of cases and issues. For example, after “the Judge of all the earth” had weighed the evidence about the wickedness of Sodom and Gomorrah, he both judged that the inhabitants merited destruction and enforced that righteous judgment. (Genesis 18:20-33; Job 34:10-12) How it should reassure us to know that God is a righteous Judge who can always carry out his judgments!

[naomi24]

Andy, told you. Brownie points.

[daisya]

I have to agree with QM....but then people who like to repsond don't get their fix of bash a religious nutter if they don't....it's fair game I guess....most of us play it to some extent. It's just I don't like to see them get their way by people responding to their mania...(guilty too I'm afraid...will we ever learn!).

[Kayless]

Well you have to admit that Elderman is either raving or a complete Genius of a wind up merchant! respect!

[daisya]

Either way kayless he/she/it certainly gets the attention it craves!

[annadomino]

It's a conspiracy to keep undertakers in business.

[ludwig]

// For crying out loud, will you lot stop encouraging him! If nobody bothered to respond, I'm sure he'd go away. (This is addressed to the rational ABers here, not to the OP.) //

What does it matter QM? People enjoy answering the nonsense as much as he obviously enjoys posting it, so where's the harm?

[Elderman]

Well, can you wake up somebody who is sleeping?—Yes, if you call in a loud voice, he will wake up. But can you wake up someone who is sleeping in death?— No. No matter how loud you call, the one who is dead will not hear. There is nothing that you or I can do to wake the dead.
But Jesus is different. He has special power from God. So, when Jesus called Lazarus, an amazing thing happened. The man who had been dead for four days came out of the cave! He had been brought back to life! He could breathe and walk and speak again! Yes, Jesus raised Lazarus after he had been dead four days! Wasn’t that wonderful?— —John 11:1-44.
But you may ask, Where was Lazarus during the four days he was dead? Did Lazarus go to heaven when he died? Was he alive up there with God and the holy angels?—
Think now: If Lazarus had been in heaven during those four days, would he not have said something about it?— And if he were in heaven, would Jesus have made him come back from that wonderful place?—

[andy-hughes]

I think you are right QM - I am dropping off this thread right now.

[flobadob]

Everything dies. And we are a part of that.

[andy-hughes]

God doesn't ... DOH!

[David H]

Ratter covered it on page one, and beyond that the way things are designed (by God, if you believe that) then death is made impossible to report on as an irreversible change. Saying the bible has the answers doesn't change this so making untestable claims about what is impossible to describe to the living doesn't become possible whether in the bible or by Steven Hawking. Buddha said we are only designed to know about life so should not be concerned about something we couldn't know when living, and that really covers it all for me.

[starone]

The Earth is already fighting hard to support us. If we did not die and went on having children we would be in a desperate situation. I like living but know I must die to make room for the next generation. I also know that I only have this life and had better make the most of it. My body will fertilise the earth for whatever lives off it next.

[Quizmonster]

I wasn't suggesting it was harmful, Ludwig, merely pointless.

[Elderman]

Ah, then, this unlocks to us another secret, back in the Garden of Eden, at the time when God was pronouncing judgment upon the various ones tied in with man’s rebellion, God said to the Serpent that instigated this rebellion: “I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.” (Gen. 3:15) In heaven God offered the opportunity to become that Seed of the woman to his only-begotten Son, and his Son accepted the offer. He did so voluntarily, although this meant that he must be bruised in the heel by the Serpent. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
That prophecy is a key to understanding the entire Bible as well as past and present events involving both the world and God’s servants.( Galatians 3:16)

[ludwig]

// I wasn't suggesting it was harmful, Ludwig, merely pointless //

..and I'm saying it's not pointless if the questioner and the answerers are getting something out of it.

[rowanwitch]

We are born to the Earth and we return as part of the circle of life...as are all things...even mountains grow from the earth and in time fade away... continents move, nothing stays the same... and one day we will all be gone... its just how things are.....