Does It Matter What You Believe?

[Elderman]

Do you think that life has a purpose? “What we have learned about the evolutionary process has enormous implications for us, affecting our sense of meaning in life.” One said His conclusion? I can see no cosmic or ultimate meaning in human life.

[boxtops]

Nando's? I've been there!

[Elderman]

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Would you encourage a wise person to become foolish?

[DTCwordfan]

Turn it around in your case, Elderman......

[naomi24]

Elderman, again you've posted something that you posted elsewhere. You really should seek help you know. I'm sure you're not well. (And that is meant kindly).

[Elderman]

DT......To a accurate understanding of your case, might be hard for you to understand
What are we all up against? well the whole world now faced with a choice between “the way of life and the way of death”? Can this really be so? Is not death the normal thing? If so, why is the case of humanity different now from what it was before? For the past thousands of years men, women, children and babies have not escaped dying. They had no other choice. Then why today should it be said that now, finally, we face the choice of “the way of life” or “the way of death”? What chance do we have of escaping the long time foe of death?

[boxtops]

We don't. Fact. Born, Die. Fact.

[DTCwordfan]

correct ^ sperm/egg fuse and born, live die, and then turned into ash or worm fertiliser. Nothing more, nothing less.

[DTCwordfan]

and adapted words from a yahoo answer(are we surprised? No.)

http://answers.yahoo....20081209224332AAGS2jE

[sandyRoe]

I sometimes wonder how the atheists can struggle out of bed of a morning being burdened with such a bleak, hopeless, philosophy.

[LazyGun]

@Sandy - more apologia for the religionistas - that atheism is a council of despair, that somehow the lack of belief in a supernatural creator reduces our appreciation of the beauty of the cosmos.

Such an argument is just nonsense, a desperation argument without any evidence or support thrown out by religionistas as a kind of comfort blanket. "Well, ok," they say, "we obviously struggle with logical thought, and we are quite happy to believe stuff in the absence of evidence - but at least we get a warm fuzzy feeling inside because we must have a greater appreciation of beauty of the world. Those evil atheists can never have such an appreciation. "

A pathetic assertion Sandy - unevidenced, irrational and untrue. Come to think of it, not too dissimalar from a belief in a god then I suppose....

[jomifl]

Yes Sandy, it is a dreadful struggle, All that thinking and making decisions based on the expectation of dying sometime. Still it's not all bad, my atheist neighbour kindly brought around a haunch of venison from a deer that he shot yesterday so at least we've got eating that to look forward to. It's the guilt that I find difficult, all those poor christians who carry the burden of a non-existant deity all their lives and feel guilty for almost everything that they do and I just don't feel guilty at all. There are times when I wish that there was a god so that you won't be disappointed, but then you won't be because their isn't one, so in a strange paradoxical way you win both ways (though dead). I wish there was some way that I could help you all through your 'vale of tears' but until you listen to the truth I am afraid you must perforce continue to inhabit you miserable guilt ridden make believe worl.

[jomifl]

d.

[jomifl]

^ the above is an example of the kind of pompous, self-righteous nonsense that atheists have to put up with from sermonising religionistis most of the time. Does it look like cr&p from your side of the divide?

[mibn2cweus]

//I sometimes wonder how the atheists can struggle out of bed of a morning being burdened with such a bleak, hopeless, philosophy.//

And how does ignoring the reality make it any less bleak, light a fire or provide shelter from the elements? Attempts to rewrite reality only exemplifies ones refusal to confront the cause of hopelessness, the masking of one illusion behind the smoke screen of another.

It is in examining and coming to understand reality that we discover the alternatives it presents to us for making it what it can and should be, should we refuse to be blinded by, subject to and victims of our own delusions and wishful thinking.

[maggiebee]

I believe for every drop of rain that falls
A flower grows,
I believe that somewhere in the darkest night
A candle glows,
I believe for everyone who goes astray,
Someone will come to show the way,
I believe, I believe.

I believe above the storm a smallest prayer
Will still be heard,
I believe that someone in the great somewhere
Hears every word,
Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf, or see the sky,
Then I know why,
I believe.

Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf, or see the sky,
Then I know why,
I believe.

[Ankou]

"I sometimes wonder how the atheists can struggle out of bed of a morning being burdened with such a bleak, hopeless, philosophy."

sandy, give it a go. you might be pleasantly surprised.