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Theland | 01:46 Sat 21st Apr 2018 | Society & Culture
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I have been outspoken about the undermining of our British culture, but I am thoroughly ashamed of this country for it betrayel of the Windrush generation, good loyal hard working citizens. Totally shameful. The name of the petty bureaucrats who made the discriminatory decisions should be published.
And this against the backdrop of mass Muslim immigration.
Talk about salt in wounds. Terrible.
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Zacs 08.56, Spot on ! you deserve best answer for that one . PMSL
FF, I imagine the Ugandan Asians who arrived in the 70s have the appropriate paperwork, as do Muslims who have come here legitimately more recently. It comes as no surprise, however, that groups willing to integrate and actually become part of British society are far more likely to be welcomed than those who are not. It’s not rocket science.
Doesn’t the Windrush ‘scandal’ demonstrate the exact opposite, Naomi?
No, Zacs. Windrush demonstrates the idiocy of Civil Servants who are incapable of utilising common sense.
The Windrush people have (mostly) integrated fully into our society. The fact they are now being persecuted doesn’t exactly support your ‘most welcome’ argument.

Your civil service comment takes us back to my assumption of its demographics.
naomi, the procedure under the hostile immigration act required constant checking of migrants' documents. If they didn't have them, the migrants were to be thrown out, on a "deport first, appeal later" basis, as mentioned by ZM. And that's exactly what was done by civil servants.

The problem came when legal immigrants hadn't kept their documents. The law - May's law - made no provision for this. That's May's fault, not the civil servants'. If the migrants had been allowed to explain why they didn't have papers, the civil servants might have been able to investigate; but the policy required them to be deported at once without a chance to explain.

Entirely the fault of the politicians who wrote the law and passed it through parliament. Not the civil servants who implemented an inhumane law correctly. You are far too kind to the politicans of your chosen party.
Zacs, //The fact they are now being persecuted doesn’t exactly support your ‘most welcome’ argument. //

The fact that there's such a fuss over it ... does.
So you’d rather not know that the Govt are persecuting people who have a right to live here? What a strange attitude.
jno, //the policy required them to be deported at once without a chance to explain.//

That isn’t true.

//Following the crackdown on immigration started in 2012, they were told they needed to prove their right to continue to work, benefit from the NHS or even remain in the country.//

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/947812/windrush-row-theresa-may-amber-rudd-levi-roots-migrants-britain-carribean-right-to-stay

Unlike you, I try to be fair to politicians of all parties.
ZM at 10.08. You're fantasising again.
The main point is that the Windrush people were NOT migrants in the way we understand the word today. They were asked, and even pleaded with, to come here to help the UK out of a bad situation. After WW2 the UK just did not have enough people of working age to fill all the jobs in the new industry that was rebuilding Britain after the destruction caused by the war.
The government had the idea of asking the commonwealth to come to our aid. Most of those that came to the UK had given up jobs and left family and friends in their home country to come and help the 'Motherland' in its hour of need.
When these people arrived they were greeted as heroes. People lined the streets to cheer and welcome them ,civic receptions were held in their honour. They have since been betrayed by a succession of governments Conservative and Labour.
Naomi, then what does your ‘such a fuss’ remark mean?
Zacs, //then what does your ‘such a fuss’ remark mean? //

All I see are people – including the Prime Minister and the home Secretary – saying these people must be allowed to remain here….. that’s what it means. I wouldn’t have thought it difficult to understand.
/// Most of those that came to the UK had given up jobs and left family and friends in their home country to come and help the 'Motherland' in its hour of need. ///

Yer, like. they came here because it was a better country from where they came.

/// When these people arrived they were greeted as heroes. People lined the streets to cheer and welcome them ,civic receptions were held in their honour. ///

And the signs went up "No Blacks, no Dogs", and we have never been allowed to forget them.

They came hear because there was mass unemployment in Jamaica. And it’s quite right that we’re never allowed to forget the signs which your generation put up, AOG.

Your ignorance and bigotry shine through in just about every comment you make.
Naomi ‘All I see are people – including the Prime Minister and the home Secretary – saying these people must be allowed to remain here’

Yes, after they’d been found to be kicking them out.
I don't see how someone isn't a migrant simply due to being invited/asked to be one. They still come from outside the country and opts to stay 'permanently'.
Zacs, //Yes, after they’d been found to be kicking them out. //

They weren't kicking them out. The dozy Civil Servants were doing that.
Civil servants were acting on the instructions of the government Naomi, specifically T May. Stop obfuscating with unnecessary detail.
Gov jobsworth made a boo boo. True brit would accept an apology & not seek compo

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