Human Differences.

[Theland]

Is it racist to recognise the differing strengths and weaknesses of different races of human beings?
Kenyans are generally supreme at long distance running. Jamaicans are generally supreme at sprinting.
Afro Americans are generally bigger and stronger than other races.
Indians / Pakistanis are as a race, generally more intelligent than white west European people.
Well documented.
So just stating the facts, is it racist? Should we turn a blind eye in the interest of Political Correctness?

[woofgang]

But are those facts?

[Zacs-Master]

Recognise, yes. Use as a weapon, no.

[jim360]

Lots of people seem to make sweeping generalisations all the time.


May be better, if you are saying that these are well-documented, to provide said documents, so that we can judge these claims for ourselves. I suspect that there is a grain of truth to some of these but there differences are probably exaggerated, and perhaps not even that statistically significant.

[Mamyalynne]

You've used 'generally' each time - if in a speech or dissertation you need to make those statements with supporting details, then fine.

It's not conversational material really as it proves nothing.

People are different.

[Cloverjo]

Stating the facts isn't racist. Nothing wrong with saying that very few white men have run 100 metres in sub-10 seconds (just one, I think) or that many of the best long-distances runners are Kenyan and Ethiopian.

[Theland]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/james-watson-scientist-honors-stripped-reprehensible-race-comments

[jim360]

Ah.

And there I was hoping that you were going to link to reputable studies, rather than the ravings of an old bigot.

[Zacs-Master]

I’m not sure whether you’ve moved the goalpost there, or started playing on a whole different pitch.

[woofgang]

possibly in a whole different universe.....

[vetuste_ennemi]

//And there I was hoping that you were going to link to reputable studies, rather than the ravings of an old bigot//

Young Pioneers know what to do with people like that, don't they, Jim?

[jim360]

I can't imagine what you mean, v-e :P

[Mamyalynne]

Stripped of his honours and ties cut, I doubt having listened to him that he'll bat an eyelid at all.

Brilliant on one hand, quite unpleasant on the other.

[Theland]

So we are all the same?

[jim360]

No, we are not, but that's not the only way in which the statements above are either wrong, or misleading, or otherwise far too simplistic.

[Zacs-Master]

Clearly, some find logical thinking more difficult that others. So, no.

[Zacs-Master]

Than.

[Mamyalynne]

No, as I said above - people are different and so often I thank the heavens for that.

Like now for instance.

[mibn2cweus]

If you split any group into arbitrary halves there are bound to be differences between and within each subgroup. This say nothing with regards to the value of each individual . . . in either subgroup.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Not aware of the literature, but do know that "affirmative action" is necessary to get disadvantaged minorities (i.e. black Americans) get into Ivy League colleges, while the opposite of "affirmative action" (whatever that is call - presumably not "prejudice", or "discrimination") is required to ensure that otherfar smaller disadvantaged minorities (this includes Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese) don't get too many places in such universities.

[vetuste_ennemi]

... to get sufficient members of disadvantaged minorities...