My Tribe Is Dying.

[Theland]

What can be done?

[naomi24]

Theland, when you introduce terrorism into the equation you weaken your original argument.

[Mozz71]

I'd suggest that an Ariana Grande concert is the safest gig around following the tragedy of Manchester, with extra policing and security following those events, so worry not.

I'd suggest its safer today than it was 35 years ago during the troubles in Northern Ireland. Were you as anti-Irish then as you are anti -Muslim now?

[naomi24]

Mozz to Theland, //Were you as anti-Irish then as you are anti -Muslim now? //

And ^that is precisely why with the introduction of terrorism into the thread, Theland weakens his argument. Apart from each faction committing acts of terror, the two situations cannot be compared.

[Theland]

My wife is Irish - Belfast. A great washer woman.

[Mozz71]

Indeed Naomi, that's the point I was heading towards, but you beat me to it. Focusing on terrorism binds the argument to that fear, not about the multicultural aspect of the discussion.

[naomi24]

It does indeed, Mozz.

[Theland]

Mozz - That is what Anne Marie Waters and Tommy Robinson talk about but their voices are drowned out with accusations of right wing extremism, that is, at the heart of Islam is the Koran which instructs it followers to be,violent and to oppress women.
So yes I am ant Islam, but get along quite well with Muslims who ignore those parts of the Koran and integrate with us.

[THECORBYLOON]

As your wife is not English or British, is she a part of your English "tribe"?

[spathiphyllum]

"My Tribe Is Dying."

(mozz)-What is your tribe?

"My English tribe."

you and your poor delusions.

If you think the English are an endangered species then feel free to text "Idiot" to 088-546 and donate just £2 a day to help Dave get his daily pint at weatherspoons.

[Mozz71]

Talking of things dying, did Theland's "white homocide" thread get put out of it's misery?

[THECORBYLOON]

When I seen it, there were only two posts one of which was THELAND's. I expected it would degerate so I'm not surprised it's gone.

[Mozz71]

It had about thirty replies last count. Shame, as I would've liked to have seen Theland try to justify it, but never mind.

[spathiphyllum]

It was quite a racist thread, i thought. The video itself was certainly not only racist, but promoting hate crimes. I'm not surprised it was axed.

[naomi24]

THECORBYLOON, //I expected it would degerate so I'm not surprised it's gone.//

I don't think it did degenerate. Spath got a bit silly, but Mozz and I had an interesting and civil discussion - well I thought we did, at least. A great pity that it's gone. As far as I'm concerned an enormous waste of time and effort on my part. It's a times like that I wonder why I bother to spend time constructing posts for serious threads.

[spathiphyllum]

Serious threads?

The thread promoted a warped ideology of English entitlement. It also promoted hate speech and sheer racism.

Thelands youtube videos are not serious, they're delusional.

[naomi24]

spath, eradicating evidence of that with which you disagree is not the way to combat it. Minds aren't changed by stifling open discussion.

[spathiphyllum]

I didn't eradicating anything, my darling x

I was eager for a response from Theland

[naomi24]

I didn't say you had.

[Mozz71]

Never mind, I wager that it will take than one deleted thread to shut Theland up. And yes Naomi, I enjoyed our chat. We may not share all our views, but you're rational and civil. I'm sure more will cone :)

[Peter Pedant]

// It's a times like that I wonder why I bother to spend time constructing deeply thought out posts for serious threads discussing relevant and uptodate issues.//

jesus so do I.... no please dont point out the serious bits of 'My tribe is dying'

as a deep thought
some things are censored in every society - for example we dont broadcast viddies of ISIS beheadings - or of child murder

so it is just a question of where the boundaries are placed.

even in the land of the free - you aren't allowed to broadcast, print - "lets shoot the president !" -so they have boundaries as well. In terms of voluntary censorship ( here's a deep thought coming up) - Frame 99 of the Zapruder video of Kennedys death is omitted altho there is no law that says they must. And it makes Jackie look as tho she is scrambling over the boot to get away, ( and not retrieve parts of the president)