Is She Wrong Or Are You Are Ignorant

[pumpjack]

https://youtu.be/WEIXYINuNeI

i believe it is part of an agenda 100%

for those who dismiss this theory then state why, provide facts & links.
i am fully aware that death certs are falsified, more covid related cases only because testing is being done more nothing else, where is the 2nd wave lol,
it has been well reported but banned from google sites, virologists and doctors have been banned from google for whistleblowing ie Dr delores cahill & Dr rashid buttar

meanwhile cancer and heart attacks are lower than in history LOL, ill leave it there

[Sqad]

eve
//////but he is sensible and believes he is able to make his own decisions about what to do and what not to do.///

I have no problem with that philosophy as long as he doesn't jeopardise other peoples lives by cross infection.

[pixie374]

I agree, eve. My son is vulnerable too, he has asthma, and it terrifies me that he may get it. But I can also see the harm that this is doing to everybody. Not just the mental effects.... but how many people will even have an immune system left, if they are properly isolating?
I'm expecting lots of excess deaths next year, from milder illnesses and allergies.

[eve1974]

Pump jack you may wanna check out Brand New Tube. A lot of folk who are banned from you tube are on it now. It’s only a beginner platform so there’s a few hiccups tech wise but it seems to have promise

[eve1974]

Squad yes I believe that he isn’t putting others at undue risks. He keeps his distance where possible , washes hands as thoroughly as pontius pilate all the time and doesn’t touch things he won’t go on to buy etc etc.

[Sqad]

Taling a bit of a chance eve but not everyone is as punctilious as your husband and as such we need a nationwide policy that some will agree with and some wont,but one we must surely have.

[woofgang]

if you scroll down to look at related questions, the first one is titled "You're having a laugh"

[pixie374]

Sqad, anyone extra vulnerable or worried, is still allowed to shield. My sister and I are extremely careful as we see them daily. But, the rest of the population really needs to be allowed to carry on. Especially the youngsters.

[Zacs-Master]

I see pump has started a thread he’s had the good sense to keep out of ;-)

[woofgang]

pixie you have mentioned your immune system thought before. Every time we go out of our houses into the garden or even open a window, our immune systems are challenged. Stroke a pet, pick up any object that someone else has handled (even someone in your houshold or bubble) and our immune systems are challenged. Empty dustbins (or put things in them, rootle round in the garage or shed, go for a sanctioned walk where face coverings are not a requirement and you will inhale, ingest and generally collect enough bugs to challenge your immune system. Basically you are plain wrong. :)

[Baldric]

Zacs, he's most likely embarrassed at the "are you are" in the title.

[Sqad]

pixie....I reiterate, that is your considered opinion,but not the opinion of all.
The pros and cons of this policy have been debated ad nauseum by informed people on both sides of the argument and a decision has been made.....a Lockdown...and it will only be successful by public compliance.
It is up to one and all.

[Zacs-Master]

Personally I love his binary choice of her being right or everyone being ignorant. Great way to start a debate.

[woofgang]

oh and linkies https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/06/social-distancing-and-immune-system

here's the beeb version. Make sure that you get sufficient vit D and exercise and reduce stress where you can.
https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/06/social-distancing-and-immune-system

[pixie374]

Usually, also, we are in contact with other people on a regular basis, not keeping a distance- and also assuming masks have any effect- we are now avoiding many normal situations, and most especially, for those whose immune systems are not the strongest.
If I'm wrong, we can tell in a few months time.... but we do already know that avoiding "unhealthy germs" will weaken your immune system. And also that those who over sterilise their houses etc, are more likely to get problems with all sorts of things, from viruses, bacteria to cancer etc. I would be surprised if this is really doing anyone any favours in the longrun. But, it will take about 6 months before we can tell.

[woofgang]

reminds me of someone else on here
"am I right?
I'm not wrong!"

[Sqad]

zac...I also smile at BA,s, if one disagrees with the OPer your chance of a BA is nil.....not that it is a big deal.

[Zacs-Master]

Sterilising your house gives you cancer! Wow. I think we’ve entered straaaaange territory now.

[pixie374]

To a degree, sqad. As I said, it scares me personally. But it is at the expense of so many other factors. For the whole of this year, my 4 year old granddaughter has asked me to take her to the park, or swimming "when everything is better". Which i can't help thinking is not great for such a young child.
There is so much more to consider than just covid. It's the balance that we need... and that is very subjective.

[woofgang]

pixie, the research say that we know NOW. "Over sterilising" your house gives you cancer? that's a doozy!
Its impossible to sterilise a house. Its hard enough to keep a sterile bubble sterile when its needed for medical reasons.

[pixie374]

No, no, zacs. Not what I said at all. Two people I know, with severe OCD have died from cancer in their early 40s. Really, even a mild infection could kill you.... it depends a lot on your immune system.