Is It Too Late To Stop The Descent To Barbarity?

[ToraToraTora]

In WW2 terms we are in 1933, when TGM urged action to stop Germany. It would have been over in a few weeks and WW2 would have been prevented. But no, the handwringers and trobiscites ignored it and refused a short fight for long term peace. In the end it became so bad that even they had to accept it was time to fight so it was a much much bigger fight. Fast forward to 2024 and we are in the same position except we are under the threat of a far worse tyranny than they faced back then. Will we let history repeat itself and thus make the fight much harder that it will be in the future? There is time to prevent Britainistan if we act now. Why don't we?

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // 11:55 wonder what AH thinks of that. //

I am not particularly impressed by a right-wing lady preaching to the converted.

However, the statistic regarding the number of Muslim mayors was interesting.

If Ms Gyngell is so concerned about the proliforation of Muslim mayors, maybe she should be addressing the aparthy of non-Muslim voters in those areas that allow Muslim voters to have their way with their votes.

You cannot moan about democracy after it has operated its principles and delivered a result that does not suit.

You need to address the indiference of the indiginous population to mayoral elections, and indeed to elections in general (pun intended), since that is the root cause of the problem.

People elect whom they choose - if that is Muslims electing a Muslim, that is democracy in action.

There is no 'creeping invasion' - simply an age-old and deeply enshrined system working as it is supposed to - like it or not, that's the way it is.

[ToraToraTora]

you are correct Andy but are you just not a little bit worried that they will eventually control the country using our own system and then change that system to sharia. eg this hapenned in Fiji.

[naomi24]

Voter apathy?  'Useful idiots' I believe is the term.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // you are correct Andy but are you just not a little bit worried that they will eventually control the country using our own system and then change that system to sharia. eg this hapenned in Fiji. //

I make it a rule of life not to worry about things I cannot control or alter - this is just one more of those.

[Untitled]

Im seeing a lot of complaining but no actual solutions... all any of you who are worried about this will talk in is euphemisms. "say no" "end multiculturalism" "radical action now".. how? do what exactly? 
 

the problem as this thread defines it is that muslims are here and are "taking over" the country by outbreeding white britons. i do not agree with that analysis but the thread isn't about whether or not we agree... it's about what to do about this supposed problem.
 

if you really truly believe that the muslim population of this country is a threat to it then the only solution to that "problem" is to get rid of this country's muslim population. "saying no" isn't going to do anything. so if you don't want to kill them all and "saying no" isn't enough then... what? toratoratora says he is open to suggestions but there have been none

[naomi24]

Untitled, you have a very warped mind.  Your posts on subjects such as this are permeated with the notion of killing people but you're the only one suggesting that.  I really think you need to examine your own thought processes before putting finger to key.

Saying 'no would be enough.

[Untitled]

"Saying no" to what? be specific. 
 

when you describe an entire demographic of people as being a problem then it only goes one way. if you are worried about muslims outbreeding everyone else then "saying no" won't stop it. you're going to have to get your hands dirty. or get someone else to do it for you while you look the other way.,

[youngmafbog]

Naomi, the tactic of using well over the top accusations is a well known tactic of the extreme left/Comunists.

They know you dont mean it but know if they repeat it enough their useful idiot followers will start to believe it and spread the malicious accusations as truth.

We see it a lot on here.

[naomi24]

I haven't said I'm worried about Muslims outbreeding the rest of us.  Where did you get that from?

[Untitled]

oh perhaps i am mistaken. are you worried about muslims outbreeding the rest of us?

[naomi24]

YMB, same with accusations of racism, Islamophobia, etc.  All designed to silence the opposition.

[youngmafbog]

Yup, an its continuing with more false assertions.

[naomi24]

Either you're genuinely mistaken, untitled, or you're making it up - as you do.  No, I am not worried about them out-breeding the rest of us.

[naomi24]

He can't help himself, YMB.  It's par for the course.

[youngmafbog]

Outbreeding has nothing to do with any of this.  You dont need to be in a position of numbers to gain power, as we have seen with the Metropolitan elites, Net zero zealots, Trans extremeists etc.

Once they get the appologists on board anything can happen, unless we learn from history.  But  again thats somehting many are trying to erradicate.

[Untitled]

you only think that it is silencing you because you don't have an answer. we are both anonymous, i cannot harm your reputation or do anything to you other than reply (and nor would i!) 

so what exactly does "say no" mean and how will it stop this supposed islamification? say no to mosques? say no to all marriage or family visas from muslim countries? say no to hijabs? say no to  muslim prayers in public places? say no to halal meat? say no to possessing the quran? 

"say no" could mean an awful lot... or nothing at all. 

[Khandro]

^^ Several of those things would be start.

[Untitled]

which ones? and if they were a start what would the next bit be?
 

blimey i have more ideas than the people who say they are worried about this do!!

[naomi24]

Untitled, you have a very bad habit of ignoring other people's answers in favour of your own imagination.

 

khandro, I agree.

[Khandro]

'Pro-Gaza activists have dramatically issued a list of 18 demands to Sir Keir Starmer and threatened to withhold their support at the next general election if he does not fulfil them. 

The Muslim Vote has called for the Labour leader to promise to cut military ties with Israel, allow followers of Islam to pray in school and stop people with the name 'Muhammad' being charged more for insurance should he become prime minister.

It has also demanded a law that criminalises spiritual and religious leaders from instructing their congregation how to vote is scrapped and wants seven per cent of public sector pensions to be invested into 'ethical and Islamic funds'.

The group, which has vowed to 'punish' MPs who it sees as not being supportive of Palestine by mobilising the four million Muslim voters in the UK, said it would only consider backing the Labour leader if Sir Keir caved in to their demands.

The activists claim to have more than 25 organisations backing them, although it was revealed earlier this year that at least two of them were being investigated over extremism concerns. One of its supporters Muhammad Jalal, who has appeared on the campaign's social media pages, was previously head of the now-banned Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir.'