Trump – A Complete Idiot

[Hymie]

Towards the end of a recent AB thread some have said how arrogant I am to claim that Trump speaks complete nonsense; well here is a video for you to judge for yourself.

 

The video is of recent Trump nonsense, mostly what he has said on the campaign trail in his (successful) bid for the presidency – likely statements his voters believed to be true.

 

It does not include Trump’s claim that the noise from windmills causes cancer, or his suggestion to inject people with disinfectant to cure covid.

 

 

[jackthehat]

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone (on this side of the pond, at least) who truly believes that DJT is 100% suitable for the position to which he has been elected.

The fact is that the American electorate were faced with a choice between him and some probably even more unsuitable for the position.

The random 'Independant' candidates were possibly better balanced, politically and mentally, but they never really prosper in American elections.

The voters can't cherry-pick the policies of which they approve and those which are unrealistic, they have to embrace the entire package - which is why the Covfefe-tweeting, science-denying, orange-faced narcissist has just been elevted to the highest office in the land.

[ToraToraTora]

11:52 Indeed I just find it disturbing the insults bandied about for not agreeing with the left wing mantra on everything. The idea that 74million people are too stupid to vote the "correct" way. I don't agree with labour voters but I respect their choice and that they made that choice in good faith. I think they are wrong but I would not label them uninformed, horrible etc. The left seem to do that when they cannot grasp why someone may not hold their view.

[Untitled]

there's a bit of a difference between what labour stands for and what the republicans stand for. 

[ToraToraTora]

11:58 of course but was using that as a parallel. It's possible to disagree with someone but respect their choice.

[Untitled]

i do grasp why. some people are quite happy to go along with wanton cruelty and put democracy at risk so long as it might feather their nest. they can kick and scream and make as many excuses as they like... but it doesn't change what they are. 

[douglas9401]

"It's possible to disagree with someone but respect their choice."

Oh my aching sides. 🤣

[Untitled]

quite douglas. from the man who calls everybody anti-british at the slightest disagreement lol. 

[jackthehat]

In our recent UK election, I agreed with some things that the Tories were promising and some things that Labour were.....

However, given that we are not offered a nuanced approach my part which best reflected the majority of my concerns got my vote.

I think a lot of the people who voted Republican felt the same - it was not necessarily a whole-hearted endorsement of DJT, but Harris and the Democrats hadn't done enough to sway the majority of voters where it mattered.

I don't think you can reasonably denegrate whole swathes of Americans because they didn't vote how you think they ought to have done, on matters that will affect them directly.

[ToraToraTora]

JTH: "I don't think you can reasonably denegrate whole swathes of Americans because they didn't vote how you think they ought to have done, on matters that will affect them directly." - untitled can!

[DDIL]

I think a lot of people are very concerned about certain aspects of trump's thoughts on women and his and his team's policies against women and people of colour.

it has already been suggested that women travelling out of state would need to provide evidence that they are not pregnant and are not seeking healthcare elsewhere.

The your body my choice movement started by one of Trumps closest campaign advisors is also very concerning especially as women have already experienced these words being thrown at them in the street.

[Mozz71]

10:25 Tora, had that been the other way round, and it had been conservative supporters having breakdowns while the news anchor guffaws, you'd be bursting blood vessels going on about leftist media.

[ToraToraTora]

only lefties have hissy fits like that mozz.

[douglas9401]

'Lefties', the ultimate in respect for others and their opinions.

Worrawally

[Atheist]

Colonel Blimp has spoken.

[Mozz71]

Really? You're pretty much blind to the faults of the right if you think that. Your side is a full as screaming Karens as the left.

[Peter Pedant]

In many ways I am sad for the US but lefties whining about Trump cheer me up immensely

o god give him some prozac and put him out in the sun, somebody

[Peter Pedant]

I think a lot of people are concerned about certain aspects of trump's thoughts on women and his team's policies against women and people of colour.

well they just shoudnt have voted for him, should they

Harris larst and had said so

[ToraToraTora]

12:24 karens are just self entitled people not getting their own way, no particular end of the political spectrum.

[Untitled]

trump incited an insurrection the last time the vote didn't go his way. he has for years spread disinformation that the vote was rigged. 

that's not respect for the other side or for democracy. trump doesn't have that. 
 

the republicans as a whole have also made it quite clear what they want to do. ban books, ban trans people from existing, ban entertainments they consider degenerate, use violence against their political opponents, and end democracy in the united states. 
 

i do not know if they will succeed in these things. but anyone who voted for them while knowing these things is a horrible person. i have mentioned before that there are many trumpists in my extended family. regretfully having listened to their justifications for doing this... that is the unpleasant conclusion i came to about them. 

[Deskdiary]

The thing that irritates the bejesus out of me with the left like Hymie and untitled is they state the tens of millions are stupid as though it is fact rather than opinion, and anybody who voices a differing opinion is equally stupid and wrong. It lends itself to their arrogance and narcissism.

 

Personally I find DT odious, but I wouldn't have the arrogance to accuse those that don't as stupid. I may question their reasons, but by the sheer number of people who did vote for him it stands to reason that not all are stupid.