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I know this is a sensitive subject! - I was on a bus last week in east London and two women got on - they were fully covered up in black, including long black gloves. This is a common sight round here - the thing was, they had a small child with them, who couldn't have been more than . She (presuming it was a girl!) had her head completely covered, with a a thin fleece and then a black veil over the top, ith only a tiny slit for her to see out of. She was blundering around as she obviously could hardly see. Surely this is child abuse? Wouldn't any child subjected to this grow up with severe psychological problems? I wanted to say something but it is such a sensitive subject and I couldn't think what to say. What does does anyone think?
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For one who pertains to the power of suggestion being the curse of the uneducated, you seem to deduce an awful lot of resentment, akin to the great unwashed Sun readers, that wearing a veil is �evil most horrid�.
One thing I think we therefore can agree on � if nothing else in life and death � is that wearing veils brings out the worst in people, but not always the wearer. Adieu.
One thing I think we therefore can agree on � if nothing else in life and death � is that wearing veils brings out the worst in people, but not always the wearer. Adieu.
Octavius- brother you are bashing your head against a wall named Naomi - who thinks that consideration of choice should be given to 3 years old, well I am not against it if parents have the final say. And then she says that she is not with kids dressing up like models. After all they are still kids and they do not know exactly what they are doing. Had majority of the parents done that, we wouldn't have been trying to find a solution about yobism. Any way be careful when you go to Italy next, lol.
Naomi - You said that people use veil when it suits them. Then let me tell you one thing. In India after Hindu, Muslim riots in late eighty (i think) someone asked a prominent Muslim Scholar if Muslims decided not to wear Muslim cap and shaved the beard so they would not be recognised as Muslims and be safe. He said although it is allowed in Islam (as per Quran) but I have not seen anyone doing that instead the people who neither had beard nor used to wear cap, they started doing it. So I have told you before that Islam is a different religion in this sense, and people become more determined when they are opposed. And that is Allah's will, agree or not.
Naomi - You said that people use veil when it suits them. Then let me tell you one thing. In India after Hindu, Muslim riots in late eighty (i think) someone asked a prominent Muslim Scholar if Muslims decided not to wear Muslim cap and shaved the beard so they would not be recognised as Muslims and be safe. He said although it is allowed in Islam (as per Quran) but I have not seen anyone doing that instead the people who neither had beard nor used to wear cap, they started doing it. So I have told you before that Islam is a different religion in this sense, and people become more determined when they are opposed. And that is Allah's will, agree or not.
Sorry to find humour in this, but .... while wandering round Preston town centre recently i encountered a similar scenario - Ma pushing the pushcahir, all veiled up; her friend / sister / maybe the plumber for all i know, all veiled up; little girl in the pushchair, all veiled up; little girl clutching a barbie and a teddy.....dammit they'd passed before I could see. It might have been a perfick moment.
Naomi � Following are all your words. Let me know where the lie is.
�Fine, we know what the women want, and we know you support them, but what about the effect on the children? Don't they matter? They're the ones we should be considering, but it seems in your efforts to support the right of mothers to insist on covering their female offspring from head to toe�,
�Fine, we know what the women want, and we know you support them, but what about the effect on the children? Don't they matter? They're the ones we should be considering, but it seems in your efforts to support the right of mothers to insist on covering their female offspring from head to toe�,
Keyplus Where in the paragraph you've quoted - or anywhere else - did I say consideration of choice should be given to 3 years old, or anything resembling that? Nowhere.
This is the second time on this thread alone that you've accused contributors of saying something they haven't said. It's a bad habit, and one you need to change, because unless you tell the truth, you will always be caught out.
This is the second time on this thread alone that you've accused contributors of saying something they haven't said. It's a bad habit, and one you need to change, because unless you tell the truth, you will always be caught out.
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