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Which of the goodly unGodly sent the Jehoves Witnesses to my door this morning?
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You may think it a great joke but it isn't really funny to have to stand and humour a couple of clearly deluded women.
I know I should have invited them in and explained that my faith was the true way but wasn't feeling up to it this morning.
I know I should have invited them in and explained that my faith was the true way but wasn't feeling up to it this morning.
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Sandy, you cannot blame all your troubles on the 'ungodly'. The blame for this falls squarely on the 'godly'. Regard it as a kind of parable where one is visited by one's own sins. If you were an atheist you would be far more understandin
12:06 Sat 27th Oct 2012
Batexia, //So what would you do if Jesus and his disciples called on your door?//
I'd invite him in for a cup of tea. You, on the other hand, wouldn’t recognise him – and he certainly wouldn’t recognise you – and the same goes for Goodlife, and Keyplus, and all who have abused his name and reputation for their own ends and deem themselves qualified to preach here.
//"when the witnesses stop calling, it is too late!" so be thankful they are still calling.//
Thankful to whom – and for what? Their presence on my doorstep is nothing but an arrogant and inconvenient intrusion.
I'd invite him in for a cup of tea. You, on the other hand, wouldn’t recognise him – and he certainly wouldn’t recognise you – and the same goes for Goodlife, and Keyplus, and all who have abused his name and reputation for their own ends and deem themselves qualified to preach here.
//"when the witnesses stop calling, it is too late!" so be thankful they are still calling.//
Thankful to whom – and for what? Their presence on my doorstep is nothing but an arrogant and inconvenient intrusion.
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Naomi.
As I said, you are presumptious! Who do You think You are to say whether or not he was/is as I expect. Or whether my religion was on his agenda.
You do not know what my beliefs are!
Plus a little hypocritical to say you would invite him in when you say you are an athiest and don't believe.
Also I think you are a little arrogant madam!
As I said, you are presumptious! Who do You think You are to say whether or not he was/is as I expect. Or whether my religion was on his agenda.
You do not know what my beliefs are!
Plus a little hypocritical to say you would invite him in when you say you are an athiest and don't believe.
Also I think you are a little arrogant madam!
Batexia, what do you mean I don't 'believe'? I don't believe he was who you think he was, but I believe he existed and I'd be very happy to invite him in for a cup of tea. I actually feel very sorry for him, because if anyone’s name has ever been used and abused it’s his. You're welcome to think as you will about me - and you're right - I don't know which religion you adhere to - but since you're a fan of the manufactured Jesus, I assume you are not a Jew. He was - he told his followers to keep the law - and therefore your concocted religion was not his. He would not recognise you – or your religion - and I repeat, the same goes for Goodlife and for Keyplus.
Obviously you don’t know the law of the Christ.
It is hardly surprising, that Jesus came into conflict with the religious leaders of his day. A “perfect law that belongs to freedom” was as far from the minds of the scribes and the Pharisees as with atheist today . They tried to control the people through man-made regulations. Their teaching became oppressive, condemnatory, negative.
In stark contrast, Jesus’ teaching was overwhelmingly upbuilding and positive! He was practical and addressed the real needs and concerns of the people. He taught simply and with genuine feeling, using illustrations from everyday life and drawing from the authority of God’s Word. (Matthew 7:28) Yes, Jesus’ teaching reached their hearts!
It is hardly surprising, that Jesus came into conflict with the religious leaders of his day. A “perfect law that belongs to freedom” was as far from the minds of the scribes and the Pharisees as with atheist today . They tried to control the people through man-made regulations. Their teaching became oppressive, condemnatory, negative.
In stark contrast, Jesus’ teaching was overwhelmingly upbuilding and positive! He was practical and addressed the real needs and concerns of the people. He taught simply and with genuine feeling, using illustrations from everyday life and drawing from the authority of God’s Word. (Matthew 7:28) Yes, Jesus’ teaching reached their hearts!
Naomi@ You ought to have a bible stuty
Who is a Jew? is a question has was made prominent in the public press. From what has been published one thing is certain, and that is that neither the Jews in Israel nor the Jews scattered abroad are agreed on who is a Jew.
What started all the heated discussion was a verdict by the Israeli Supreme Court. In a 5-to-4 decision it held, in effect, that anyone was a Jew who claimed to be a Jew, even though he was an atheist and not born of a Jewish mother. However, Orthodox Jewry maintains that Jewish religion and nationality are inseparable. Because of the uproar that this verdict created in Israel a proposition was placed before the Knesset, the Israeli parliament, that the definition of Jewishness in the Halakah, the body of Jewish religious law, be henceforth declared the only legal one. The Halakah defines a Jew as one born of a Jewish mother or a convert to Judaism. This was made law on March 10, 1970.
Even today as the Jews in Israel are divided over this question, so are Jews in other lands. America’s largest Orthodox rabbinic body condemned the position taken by the Israeli Supreme Court. According to them, “without religious cohesiveness, the unifying bond of Jewish peoplehood will be diluted irreparably.”
So neither the Jews in Israel nor the Jews outside of Israel can agree on who is a Jew, where can we find a satisfactory answer? In God Word, the Bible, which contains the early history of the Jews. It tells us first of all that Abraham was a Hebrew. (Gen. 14:13)
All the descendants of his son Isaac also came to be known as Hebrews. Those who sprang from the family of Jacob or Israel, Abraham’s grandson, were also known as Israelites. So where does the name “Jew” come in?—Gen. 32:28; Ex. 9:7.So Naomi when you find that out, you know what Jew within the meaning of scriptures.
Who is a Jew? is a question has was made prominent in the public press. From what has been published one thing is certain, and that is that neither the Jews in Israel nor the Jews scattered abroad are agreed on who is a Jew.
What started all the heated discussion was a verdict by the Israeli Supreme Court. In a 5-to-4 decision it held, in effect, that anyone was a Jew who claimed to be a Jew, even though he was an atheist and not born of a Jewish mother. However, Orthodox Jewry maintains that Jewish religion and nationality are inseparable. Because of the uproar that this verdict created in Israel a proposition was placed before the Knesset, the Israeli parliament, that the definition of Jewishness in the Halakah, the body of Jewish religious law, be henceforth declared the only legal one. The Halakah defines a Jew as one born of a Jewish mother or a convert to Judaism. This was made law on March 10, 1970.
Even today as the Jews in Israel are divided over this question, so are Jews in other lands. America’s largest Orthodox rabbinic body condemned the position taken by the Israeli Supreme Court. According to them, “without religious cohesiveness, the unifying bond of Jewish peoplehood will be diluted irreparably.”
So neither the Jews in Israel nor the Jews outside of Israel can agree on who is a Jew, where can we find a satisfactory answer? In God Word, the Bible, which contains the early history of the Jews. It tells us first of all that Abraham was a Hebrew. (Gen. 14:13)
All the descendants of his son Isaac also came to be known as Hebrews. Those who sprang from the family of Jacob or Israel, Abraham’s grandson, were also known as Israelites. So where does the name “Jew” come in?—Gen. 32:28; Ex. 9:7.So Naomi when you find that out, you know what Jew within the meaning of scriptures.
naomi -are you a Jehovah's Witness ? I ask this because you say Jesus was nothing more than a Jew -JW don't believe Jesus was the son of God do they?
As for visiting evangelists - I just tell them I'm Pagan and wave a pentacle at them and that usually does the trick -if they persist i say I'll read their Watchtower if they will come in for a Tarot reading ;-)
As for visiting evangelists - I just tell them I'm Pagan and wave a pentacle at them and that usually does the trick -if they persist i say I'll read their Watchtower if they will come in for a Tarot reading ;-)
Naomi
Depends what law you are referring to. There are many laws and covenants.
There is the Abraham Law, The Mosaic Law, The Kingly Law and the law of the Christ. Jesus said he came to fulfil the law. Which he did. The Mosaic law was the tutor leading to the Christ. He then gave the Kingly Law and said that all those who obeyed this law were actually fulfilling the 10 commandments. But, he also said that he did away with the law upon his death. Now, God was no longer looking to the Jews as his chosen people, but according to Acts 10 v 34, & 35
10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Jesus was born into the Nation of Isreal basically because the Isrealites were at that time, God’s Chosen Nation. But they are no longer God’s people due to the fact they killed his son.
You claim to be an atheist, as least that is what I gather from reading your past comments on other threads. Therefore, if you are an atheist you are hardly going to believe in Jesus are you? Or do you have double standards.
Again, you are presuming - I am not a Jew. How you do come to that conclusion? There are different beliefs even amongst Judaism.
Magsmay// naomi -are you a Jehovah's Witness ?//
Are you joking? Naomi a Jehovah’s Witness – I hardly think so. If she is, she is completely out of line to what I have heard and know about them.
Depends what law you are referring to. There are many laws and covenants.
There is the Abraham Law, The Mosaic Law, The Kingly Law and the law of the Christ. Jesus said he came to fulfil the law. Which he did. The Mosaic law was the tutor leading to the Christ. He then gave the Kingly Law and said that all those who obeyed this law were actually fulfilling the 10 commandments. But, he also said that he did away with the law upon his death. Now, God was no longer looking to the Jews as his chosen people, but according to Acts 10 v 34, & 35
10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Jesus was born into the Nation of Isreal basically because the Isrealites were at that time, God’s Chosen Nation. But they are no longer God’s people due to the fact they killed his son.
You claim to be an atheist, as least that is what I gather from reading your past comments on other threads. Therefore, if you are an atheist you are hardly going to believe in Jesus are you? Or do you have double standards.
Again, you are presuming - I am not a Jew. How you do come to that conclusion? There are different beliefs even amongst Judaism.
Magsmay// naomi -are you a Jehovah's Witness ?//
Are you joking? Naomi a Jehovah’s Witness – I hardly think so. If she is, she is completely out of line to what I have heard and know about them.
Goodlife, //The Halakah defines a Jew as one born of a Jewish mother or a convert to Judaism.//
Unless you don’t believe that Mary was the mother of Jesus, you seem to have shot yourself in the foot there.
Batexia, //you are hardly going to believe in Jesus are you? Or do you have double standards.//
I don’t 'believe' in Jesus – I didn’t say I did - and I don't have double standards.
//Again, you are presuming - I am not a Jew. How you do come to that conclusion?//
I didn’t say that either.
Do you ever actually read what anyone else says? If you can’t understand the few words I’ve written, it’s no surprise the bible confuses you.
Magsmay,
//are you a Jehovah's Witness ?//
No. I have no religion.
Unless you don’t believe that Mary was the mother of Jesus, you seem to have shot yourself in the foot there.
Batexia, //you are hardly going to believe in Jesus are you? Or do you have double standards.//
I don’t 'believe' in Jesus – I didn’t say I did - and I don't have double standards.
//Again, you are presuming - I am not a Jew. How you do come to that conclusion?//
I didn’t say that either.
Do you ever actually read what anyone else says? If you can’t understand the few words I’ve written, it’s no surprise the bible confuses you.
Magsmay,
//are you a Jehovah's Witness ?//
No. I have no religion.
Goodlife, I presume you’re attempting to claim in your usual enigmatic way that the Jews in scripture were the original Jehovah’s Witnesses. Funnily enough Muslims believe the Jews, including Mary and Jesus, were Muslims. Ironic really - neither of your religions existed in biblical times, but you all, nevertheless, want bit of something that is not yours and never will be. History is history – and as hard as you try, and as hard as you lie, none of you can change that.
A question. Have you ever tried reading the bible from a non-Witness perspective? And do please try to answer that in your own words.
A question. Have you ever tried reading the bible from a non-Witness perspective? And do please try to answer that in your own words.
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