Is Hell Hot?

[goodlife]

People often forget they have brains when it comes to a topic such as hell. Many persons will ponder on financial or other matters, but when hell is the subject they seem to prefer that someone else do the thinking.

[LazyGun]

@Goodlife - Thats twice now that you have insulted other contributors to this thread.
"Again, there is no reason to be dogmatic on this, People often forget they have brains when it comes to a topic such as a converts some prefer that someone else do the thinking"

And oh the the irony! - a JW telling others not to be dogmatic, or the irony of a committed faithhead telling others they do not use their brain!

So is it only people that disagree with you that have no brain goodlife, or just the rest of humanity?

[naomi24]

I'd still like to know what he's talking about - but I'm not sure he knows himself.

[goodlife]

Lazygun // Thats twice now that you have insulted other contributors to this thread.//

There has been no insult intended. You obviously read into it what you wanted to see.
I was not insulting any person(s). I was using the term "dogmatic" in the sense that people hold stubbornly to the belief of a hellfire, not using their brains in questioning the logic in the idea that the Bible words "sheol" and "hades" translate into "burning fire" when the correct translation of these words is actually "grave".

For example:
The Hebrew word sheol in the King James Version, is translated 31 times as "hell," 31 times as "grave," and 3 times as "pit."



Birdie@
Q1 He is omniscient in the sense that nothing can be hidden from him.

Q2 No

Q3 Yes

[naomi24]

Goodlife, //people hold stubbornly to the belief of a hellfire//

Perhaps Jesus is leading them astray.

//whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.//

Matthew 5:22

[goodlife]

If you say so Naomi ,but I think you find it say Gehenna not hell fire.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, you need to look a little deeper at religions other than your own.

[LazyGun]

@Goodlife

Well,its good to hear you were not trying to insult other posters,when you twice typed that "people forget their brains" when talking about hell. Of course, you still fail to recognise the irony of that statement, when your own assertions of hell are entirely based upon dogma.

The most valuable use of our brains is to critically examine the world around us, and that should most definitely include beliefs. I have yet to see you offer any evidence of a critical examination of the dogma that underpins your faith in any of these threads, rejecting the logic in favour of the faith every time, so who exactly is "forgetting their brains" here, Goodlife?

Remember that every time you point a finger - you are pointing 3 back at yourself... :)

[locusts]

hi good life .hell can be many things. As you are always quoting from the holy writings. what is the truth about hell in the Bible. And what is the Bible pointed view. in my opinion hell is death and not a place of everlasting fire.??? and you say god and Jesus are of love ,so why is your soul tormented the rest of your time in hell if you fail to please him .

[goodlife]

These questions have been debated for centuries. The controversy and still divides major religions. Can God’s ability to foreknow the future be reconciled with human free will? Where should we look for answers?

Well not from you.


If, in certain respects, God chooses to exercise his infinite ability of foreknowledge in a selective way and to the degree that pleases him, then assuredly no human or angel can rightly say: “What are you doing?” (Job 9:12) It is therefore not a question of ability, what God can foresee, foreknow, and foreordain, for “with God all things are possible.” (Mt 19:26) The question is what God sees fit to foresee, foreknow, and foreordain.
Of course, all this has been only by God’s permission, and has resulted in all the political governments and rulerships that exist today. So,
12 “All right, you may test him,” the LORD said to Satan. “Do whatever you want with everything he possesses, but don’t harm him physically.” So Satan left the LORD’s presence.(NLT)

Yes, Jesus said that those falsely professing to serve him would be distinguished from those who are fed falsehoods.


Locustsl@ At revelation 14:9-11 speaks of some who are “tormented with fire and sulphur . . . And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever.” Does this prove eternal conscious torment in hellfire? No actually, all this passage says is that the wicked are tormented, not that they are tormented forever. The text states that it is the smoke—the evidence that the fire has done its work of destruction—that continues forever, not the fiery torment.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, // And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever.” Does this prove eternal conscious torment in hellfire? No actually, all this passage says is that the wicked are tormented, not that they are tormented forever.//

So we’ve gone from the concept of hell doesn’t really exist in the bible to the wicked being condemned to fiery torment, but not forever. Do you actually know what you’re talking about?

//The text states that it is the smoke—the evidence that the fire has done its work of destruction//

And that’s good? You’re happy with that? If being a true Christian demands that a human mind accepts that hateful nonsense with impunity, as yours clearly does, then all I can say is I’m glad I’m one of those damned atheists! I don’t want to be like you. Sickening!

[fredkins]

I have not read all the posts on here but my view Is you will never know,and neither will any of us,If hell Is hot or heaven Is nice.

[NoMercy]

If hell is hot, has heaven got air conditioning?

[goodlife]

Naomi@ How are those cast into the “lake of fire” tormented? That you should not be hasty in taking this expression as literal, is evident from the nature of the book of Revelation.

Because revelation was presented “in signs or symbols?

To help you appreciating that Jehovah is a loving and just God, as true christain can rest assured that his purpose for those who want to serve him.

[goodlife]

//It's a question that you haven't got the guts to answer//

If you say so Birdie,but the Bible does say faith is not the possession of all people.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, //How are those cast into the “lake of fire” tormented?//

Why are you asking me? You told your new friend, Locusts, in your last post.

//revelation 14:9-11 speaks of some who are “tormented with fire and sulphur . . .//

But suddenly once again the allegedly infallible bible doesn't mean what it says – even though you quoted it as fact. How funny! :o)

//Jehovah is a loving and just God, as true christain can rest assured that his purpose for those who want to serve him. //

Love and justice do not exist your God’s philosophy, nor in your obsequious, fawning, servitude. You’re terrified of dying and for that reason alone you have not only voluntarily abandoned your own precious intellect, but you are intent upon dragging anyone stupid enough – or naïve enough – to listen to you into a similar state of quivering cowardice by dishonestly contaminating their minds with this evil doctrine. You believe that your God made you in his image, and going by his record and your posts that would appear feasible – but it’s nothing to be proud of. As a human being, supposedly endowed with the benefit of free will, you should be ashamed of him – and of yourself.

[goodlife]

//Jehovah is a loving and just God, as true christain can rest assured that his purpose for those who want to serve him. //

Yes,Many people envy the happy ones,by any thrills they get from lies.

That all on the matter.