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baza | 17:15 Fri 20th Sep 2013 | Religion & Spirituality
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Why do you not believe in a God?...
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Khandro Why not? please elucidate or is being deliberately obtuse one of the privileges of being on a higher plane than mere mortals (megalomania notwithstanding)?
I don't believe in a god, because I don't believe in the Star-Spangled Macaroni Zombie either. But if you can prove the existence of either of them, I'll believe to your heart's content.
Why do I not believe in a God? Because believing never made it so and if the existence of a 'God' is as important as it is asserted to be than knowing and understanding what it is that you believe and how you know it to be true is no less important. To believe arbitrarily in the arbitrary is a potentially dangerous proposition in proportion to the ramifications of what that particular belief entails.

As humans we have evolved into a complex species whose survival strategy rests in and has come to rely on our capacity to know understand and meet the demands imposed on our survival and well-being by reality through a process of reason, if not your own than someone else's on whom you have imposed the burden, not some invisible agent who lives in the sky but another responsible thinking caring human being. We exist as humans not simply because we can think but because we do think . . . objectively and rationally. We exist not by believing what we like but by knowing what we must and thereby believing and doing what we should.

Proof that ‘God’ does not exist as other than the product of an unbridled imagination unfettered by the knowledge which contradicts such beliefs is contained in the ineffability of what ‘God’ is alleged and supposed to be. Consciousness, perception, reason and intentional purposeful creation are the products of living organisms which possess the physical means to carry out the cognitive processes required to achieve consciousness, perception, reason, and creativity, means and processes not only made possible by the existence of such highly evolved organisms but on which their continued existence and further evolution rely.

The ‘reasons’ typically given for believing in a God, of whatever the chosen flavour, are proof of nothing other than that the believer has not yet fully grasped the nature, means, and processes by which we became that which define us as intelligent rational beings worthy of the distinction of that which distinguishes us from all other animals . . . reason. A ‘reason’ is not an excuse to believe what you choose but the process of non-contradictory identification and integration of acquired knowledge by which we determine and choose what we should believe, a process which at every turn in our accumulation and integration of newly acquired knowledge ultimately leads to the only rational conclusion that can be made regarding God, that He can not and therefore does not exist.

I don’t believe because reason informs my beliefs and with regards to God tells me I should never attempt to substitute faith for doubt in the pursuit of the very knowledge which informs me what I should never believe . . . and why.
naomi; I have observed that I am not an observer.
I dont believe in Gods for the same reasons I dont believe in a host of other fairy stories, no proof and evidence is very sketchy to say the least.

Also I am not gullible and able to stand on my own two feet without the support of an invisible crutch.
Khandro,// naomi; I have observed that I am not an observer. //

Oh Gawd! How very enigmatic! So much for intelligent discussion! :o/
Only those with a hardy perseverance can be expected to understand.
^ That sounds like a quote from Sandy.
zero evidence
It would be interesting now to hear from people who DO believe in God and why?
There is an Attention Believers thread which inspired this one, Dave. I'm afraid the godly didn't make much of an effort.
Isn't it rather the ungodly lacking in effort?
^^ See Mibs post for effort.
Khandro, //Only those with a hardy perseverance can be expected to understand.//

Ahh …. you mean those who are, like you, fluent in gobbledegook. That explains it. Pass!
What an interesting thread. I have really enjoyed reading it. Thanks baza!
You are most welcome; as Prof. Stanley Unwin used to say, "Deep joy!". I shall retire smiling with the thoughts of the champagne breakfast party awaiting me tomorrow morning.
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Khandro

This thread is about discussing the strength of arguments for/against the existence of God. Most of us have calmly answered and outlined the arguments against which we find most persuasive. This is considerably more than the vast majority of our resident believers have deigned to do in either this thread or the other two.

If you're so sure of yourself, why can't you defend your argument? Why is the only response you have to any kind of critical enquiry just pretentious doublespeak?
Attempting to conduct a sensible conversation with Khandro is a complete waste of time.
'I have observed that I am not an observer.' This is not facetious, I restate it, and stand four-square behind it.
The kind words from birdie ('The Torquemada of AB') are appreciated. :-)

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