Fao Goodlife. Guidance Embodied In The Biblical Hebrew Massacres

[beso]

How does the Biblical story of the Hebrews brutally slaughtering every man woman and child in over thirty tribes guide the reader to a better perspective on life?

[RATTER15]

"You are only mocking and ridiculing whatever I say so sometimes, I wonder why I bother."

Actually I think that thought had occurred to a few of us.

[LazyGun]

@goodlife - still evading the question, I see. Still, like Naomi suggests, being a very poor teacher.

Oh, and I simply do not believe you when you prattle about having personal experience of "plenty of atheists" converting. I think you dissemble in defence of your religion - lying for jesus yet again.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, //But someone took the time to explain to me and I am glad they did! //

But you're not taking the time to explain. You won't answer our questions, so how are you helping anyone to understand?

[naomi24]

Goodlife, just a thought. Before you became a Jehovah's Witness, did you have a different religion - or were you a non-believer?

By the way, Mrs.O - watch this space. I don't think that can be answered with a copy and paste. ;o)

[sandyRoe]

What joy there would be amongst the ranks of the goodly Godly if we could hear Goodlife utter the words from Luke 15, 'Rejoice with me for I have found my lost sheep'.

[DTCwordfan]

Minus one actually Ratter - I was an agnostic until Goodlife came along. He just confirmed the stupidity and futility of all religion.

[DTCwordfan]

Found mine, sandy; they feature in my avatars....

[beso]

My question is one that makes JWs very uncomfortable especially when the underlying philosophy is pointed out as one used time and time again in the history of humans justifying invasion and genocide.

Firstly the targeted population is vilified. In the case of the Hebrew massacres the victims were accused of not following Yhw's laws. The women are depicted as "all indulging in prostitution". (Of course they were prostitutes because, not being Hebrews, they had sex with men whom they had not married under Hebrew law.) Then they are depicted as a threat to righteousness such that the only thing a decent person could do would be to kill them.

The Nazis used exactly the same strategy. Rwandans got even closer to the Biblical model as they hacked their targets to death emulating the way the invading Hebrews "put every man woman and child to the sword".

The final part of the model is the Godly justification. God commanded us to kill them and He gave us their land and wealth.

What is portrayed as a guide to leading a proper life is really the justification and exaltation of the worst of human's animal desires to take resources. The Hebrews not only pillaged and burned, they put the gold, silver and precious items into the Arc of the Covenant and treated it like an item of worship.

The faithful cannot counter this reality. Consequently we see goodlife completely avoid the question.

For more on the true nature of the supposed guidance to goodness in the Bible have a browse around the ebonmusings site. Here is a good page to start.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/essays/a-book-of-blood/

[seadogg]

Judging by the number of time the Jehovah's Woodentops have visited us its not surprising that they convert the odd atheist. Their methods are sinister. Find someone who is foolish or weak enough to give 'em the time of day when they call and return later mob handed and have "meetings" with them. Yuk!

[seadogg]

sorry, missed the comma after "later".

[vulcan42]

I see where we have been going wrong, we've been asking goodlife the wrong questions. Perhaps if goodlife would be goodenough to post a list of questions he can answer, we could, occasionally, select one and ask him.

[andy-hughes]

goodlife - ""You are only mocking and ridiculing whatever I say so sometimes, I wonder why I bother."

You really are a poor advocate for Christianity, and your particular cabal version of it aren't you?

A few on-line atheists call you for your stratospheric pomposity, evasion, constant cutting and pasting, and general ability to annoy people, and you get all snotty and ' wonder why you bother'.

Frankly, if this is all it takes to put you off, you'd be better finding some other line of correspondence, since religious debate is clearly beyond you.

If your Son Of God had given up as easily as you, where would your faith be by now?

Same place as mine I imagine.

[goodlife]

Your all wrong, I seen the Bible as is teaches me to think carefully and to be far-sighted, otherwise. Says an inspired proverb: “The shrewd one that has seen the calamity has concealed himself; the inexperienced that have passed along have suffered the penalty.”—Proverbs 27:12.

So it down to your choice.

God gave us the freedom to choose as he done in the past, whether we would serve him or not. And while he will not force humans to be obedient, neither will he allow wickedness, suffering and injustice to continue indefinitely. Nor will he allow anyone to keep on living who would upset the peace and happiness in his new world to come.

That is why he now invites people to use their free choice.
Those who do so, will see this unsatisfactory world end, and then they will have the great joy of helping to transform the earth into a paradise.—Psalm 37:34.Simple for some.

As said to the Israelite at Joshua 24:15 15 Now if it is bad in YOUR eyes to serve Jehovah, choose for yourselves today whom YOU will serve, ..............whose land YOU are dwelling. But as for me and my household, we shall serve Jehovah.”

[Peter Pedant]

good life
So why do people deceive themselves in religious matters. Proverbs 14:12 states: “There exists a way that is upright before a man, but the ways of death are the end of it afterward.”

this looks like biblical for - we all dead in the end - John M Keynes

was in someway prophetical in things other than economics ?

[andy-hughes]

goodlife - "Your all wrong ..."

That little bump you can hear is the sound of my case being rested.

[beso]

Having failed to address the question at all, goodlife goes back to posting irrelevant quotes from the Bible.

//That is why he now invites people to use their free choice.
Those who do so, will see this unsatisfactory world end, and then they will have the great joy of helping to transform the earth into a paradise.—Psalm 37:34//

"Helping transform the earth into a paradise." The main difference between now and post-Armageddon paradise is the deaths of those who don't subscribe to the doctrine. Helping no doubt involves doing God's work slaughtering them in the great Hebrew tradition.

However, sword skills are not so common these days. Will there be sword lessons provided?

[beso]

goodlife //Can't you lot read the Bible then.[?] //

Yes we can. And that is where the religions based upon it are ultimately doomed.

Atheists used to quietly ignore the book but the unsavory nature of the Bible's teachings are being brought to light but atheists who have read it.

Anyone with a genuine sense of morality could not continue to depict its horrible philosophy as something to be exalted.

[beso]

// As said to the Israelite at Joshua 24:15 15 Now if it is bad in YOUR eyes to serve Jehovah, choose for yourselves today whom YOU will serve, ..............whose land YOU are dwelling. But as for me and my household, we shall serve Jehovah.” //

Yes Yhw got annoyed with Joshua and his followers and punished them severely. They hadn't killed all the tribes living in the Promised Land like they had been told.

Two tribes tricked the Hebrews into a peace treaty by pretending they came form outside the Promised Land. Fancy that, they wanted peace when they were supposed to be killed!

For this disgraceful behavior they were enslaved by the Hebrew. But Yhw was not impressed.