naomi24//locusts, Josephus was not a contemporary of Jesus and his references to Jesus, hearsay at the best, are unreliable for several reasons. In an effort to authenticate the existence of Jesus, the work was altered by early Christians, and that is borne out by the fact that since Jesus did not fulfil the role that Jews expect of the still awaited messiah, no Jew would have claimed the executed Jesus to be the messiah.
Locusts /// Even Richard Dawkins / and will not openly say yes or no /existence even when there is so much evidence is man didn't exist/ the Christ and many /many scholars even atheist/ there was a man called Christ /even with all the evidence of prove proof that there was a man called Christ /and he did live// you keep on saying there's no proof /you are blinded to the truth .and I have read many documents relating to this ,
just some references to this discussion and there are more if like to look .
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
Josephus on Jesus Chapter 3.
Jewish Antiquities", by Flavius Josephus. Book 18, Chapter 3, paragraphs 1-5. Paragraph 3 is the Testimonium Flavianum itself, which contains the reference to Jesus Christ.
3. (63) Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. (64) And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross [2], those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day [3], as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named for him, are not extinct at this day.
C/p Historical elements[edit]
Existence[edit]
Most contemporary scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and most biblical scholars and classical historians see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[7][9][10][30][31][32] In antiquity, the existence of Jesus was never denied by those who opposed Christianity.[33][34] There is, however, widespread disagreement among scholars on the details of the life of Jesus mentioned in the gospel narratives, and on the meaning of his teachings.[14] Scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the Biblical accounts of Jesus,[14] and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucifiedby the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[11][12][13]
c/p Geza Vermes believes in the partial authenticity of the Testimonium and the existence of a reference to Jesus within it.[136][138] Vermes states that if the Testimonium had been the work of a Christian forger, it would have placed blame on the Jewish leaders, but as is it is "perfectly in line" with the atitude of Josephus towards Pilate.[138] Vermes also states that the detached depiction of the followers of Jesus is not the work of a Christian interpolator.[138] Vermes calls the Jesus notice in the Testimonium a "veritable tour de force" in which Josephus plays the role of a neutral witness
c/p Jesus as myth[edit]
Main article: Christ myth theory
The Christ myth theory (also known as the "Jesus myth theory" or "Jesus mythicism") is the proposition that Jesus never existed in any form but was invented by the Christian community around 100 CE. The idea was first put forward in the late 18th century and developed and popularised in the 19th century by Bruno Bauer.[40]
A few contemporary writers, notably G. A. Wells, Richard Carrier, Earl Doherty and Robert M. Price[41] still regard the question of whether Jesus ever existed as open. This position is not held by most professional historians, nor the vast majority of New Testament scholars.[9