Is God Cruel?

[goodlife]

THE BIBLE SAYS: God said: “I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living.” (Ezekiel 33:11)

Well it shows that people don’t know their Bible.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, you ask do I believe the bible? Actually, you would be very surprised if I gave you an in depth answer to that question, but for now I’ll ask you the question I’ve asked you many times before which you've consistently failed to respond to. What really happened at Easter?

[Uriah Heep]

Goodlife. What church/denomination do you belong to?

[RATTER15]

Uriah Heep, he is Jehovah Witness.

[beso]

Of course God prefers the one who turns back and keeps living because they would be another who will obey the command of the church oligarchs.

[mikey4444]

More drivel !

[naomi24]

Is God cruel? A god commands a man to kill his son, watches the unbearable anquish the man suffers, and waits until the very last moment before staying the man’s hand, having known all along (god being omniscient) that he would eventually stop the slaughter. This same god has a wager with another supernatural being allowing him to take everything a good and faithful man has, and to kill his family. And then of course we have the baby – the one upon whom god imposed a lingering death in retribution for the father’s adultery. Which of those three examples to you think is kind, Goodlife?

To answer the question more thoroughly, god was not just cruel – he was psychopathic - he took pleasure in cruelty. If a human being behaved in the way that this god allegedly behaved, in the interests of public safety we’d have locked him up and thrown away the key.

[Old_Geezer]

?!? I read the OP and can't see the point being made. Did Ezekiel not know their bible ? Surely there was no such a book in their time. And what has it to do with God being cruel or not ? I suspect a deity would not recognise such a term anyway save for it being a man made idea.

[goodlife]

First, Noami do you believe the Bible, or is it you believe bits what you want to.

Or are just skipping around in the Bible, picking out the scriptures that fit your interpretation.

If one start with an open mind, ready to believe or not believe according to the evidence, it is quite probable that he/she shall discover that it is easier to believe.

[goodlife]

The facts powerfully persuade sincere persons to believe the Bible. If you are sincerely seeking the truth, you will be moved to prove their truthfulness.

[mikey4444]

Sorry goodlife...I may have been somewhat abrupt with my previous answer to you question. I will have another go ::

Yes !

[pixie373]

Goodlife,

//You are right in that God did not write the Bible, but he inspired those he chose to write it. //

who says?

[naomi24]

//Noami do you believe the Bible, or is it you believe bits what you want to.//

Well, difficult to say, Goodlife. You see where things like Easter are concerned, the bible tells several different stories so I don’t really know what to believe. It's rationally impossible to believe them all - even for someone as devout as you - so come on - tell me - just what did happen at Easter? And how about an answer to my post at 12.12 today? Would you say the three incidents I cited are fine examples of God's loving nature?

Incidentally, I do wish you would stop talking about 'facts'. There are no facts.

[beso]

goodlife //Or are just skipping around in the Bible, picking out the scriptures that fit your interpretation. //

That is certainly what the believers do. If the book had any real value it would not be necessary to choose which bits to accept.

Just one wrong statement included in the bible aught to be enough to show it is not of divine origin. It is littered with down right disgusting, misogynistic, violent advice.

The Bible, its prequels and sequels are the work of ancient, arrogant, ignorant, misogynistic men. Its only value would be as recycled paper. Case closed.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, in the absence of answers I'm beginning to think I may have inconvenienced you by skipping to the bits you prefer not to talk about.

[goodlife]

Naomi@
Do you not know that the very name “Easter,” is of pagan origin? Rather than being a Christian celebration, Easter is pagan, with roots deep in ancient sex worship. If you stop and think about it, all the traditions connected with Easter, reflect fertility.

As to your comments at 12:12 yesterday.
He did not command Abraham to sacrifice his son, he asked him. But he knew that Abraham was a faithful man and that he had faith God would resurrect his son. Why do I know this? Simple, God promised Abraham that through his seed all nations would bless themselves. If Abraham killed his son, he would have no seed, therefore the nations would not benefit. Common sense if you look into the Bible deeply.
With regard to Job. Jehovah again knew this man had faith. Although he allowed Satan to test him, he was not allowed to take his life. At the end of the day, Job had everything returned to him, even another 10 children so in the resurrection he will have all 20.
God sacrificed his son Jesus, Jesus in fact willingly did so. Do you not think that a person like Jesus could not have done something to avert his death? You of little faith. You have absolutely no idea of what God is like. You do not know him and with your attitude you never will!

Beso@ I do not pick and choose bits. I take the whole Bible. In fact Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only ones who take the whole Bible and not bits. The Hebrew scriptures point to the Greek Scriptures and if you really study the Bible, and I mean Study, the depth, breadth and width of each scripture, you will see no contradictions as many say, and the whole Bible is a Book completely in harmony with itself in all its parts.

[beso]

goodlife //I take the whole Bible. In fact Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only ones who take the whole Bible and not bits.//

So you kill your children if they are disobedient?

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/children.html

[goodlife]

You See, You have absolutely no idea of what God is like. You do not know him and with your attitude you never will!