Can Someone Answer This?

[dunnitall]

If religionists accept that their god created life on this planet do they accept that their god created good AND evil? I assume the two would come together because of said god creating everything apparently. If this is the case how can religionists justify condemning evil (in the name of god?) when it was created by their god anyway?

[murraymints]

God created good....man created evil with greed and lust for power !

[Baldric]

Double Standards ?

[murraymints]

Baldric ..you saying I'm greedy and lusty ;-/ ? Lol...

[pixie373]

You're not greedy, minty x

[inksplotter]

Philosophically speaking, it might be hard to think of good and evil. People might behave well to some people, but behave cruelly to others. The law doesn't diagnose who evilness, merely guilt. lt is part of British justice that you can only be tried on your current crimes (unless new evidence is found) no matter how evil they are.

[waterboatman]

Just lusty! ;o}

[inksplotter]

That "who" is a typo.

[murraymints]

Pix...you implying I'm lusty ? ROFL

[dzug2]

Well one argument is that God created neither good nor evil. (S)he created mankind which promptly invented both.

[pixie373]

;-)

[dunnitall]

MM.. But god is supposed to have created man and everything else, so if god created mankind where did evil come from.....if it's 'the devil' god must have created the devil too....after all we are told all is god's work.

[murraymints]

Because men are competitive hunter gatherers ! They are constantly vying for top dog position ....whatever it takes !

[naomi24]

Strange how God is always given credit for the good but is never responsible for the bad. We shouldn’t forget that God is reputedly omniscient – therefore he must have known the outcome of what he was about to create before he sat down at his drawing board.

Here’s a bit about one of God’s more questionable creations - a worm that can only survive by burrowing into the eyes of other creatures. Good old God, eh?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/27/david-attenborough-science

I agree with David Attenborough - I too find that hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator.

[dunnitall]

That's what I mean Naomi, religionists never recognise or don't want to, that their god must have created evil because we're told it created everything. Humans were supposedly given everything by 'the creator' except evil....so how did they conjure that up without god's help...

[naomi24]

In response to David Attenborough, creationist Ray Comfort said this:

//…..if you and I believe that a morally perfect God made man and woman in the beginning, and sin caused creation to be under the Genesis curse, then every deathly disease and devastating disaster makes sense. Just a note of caution for potential Attenborough clones. The African boy with the worm in the eye won't be any sort of defense on Judgment Day. //

He neglects to tell us who devised the Genesis curse, or to ask himself what sort of twisted mind would impose such malicious punishment upon all of humanity in retribution for the disobedience of just two of the species. That is considered to be a loving God's perfect justice. Whichever way you look at it, if you believe in God, then you must, rationally, hold him responsible.

[goodlife]

Look at it this way, if a person acts wickedly toward you, why should you make yourself into his evil image? That is the impractical way of this wicked world. If somone calls you names, must you berate him? If one lies or backbites or gossips about you, must you repay him, and yourself by becoming a hateful liar or backbiter or gossiper, lowering yourself to his level? Would he not thereby show himself the stronger, in that he changes you into his image, his evil practices becoming your practices?

Rendering evil for evil sets in motion a vicious circle of evil-doing. Lie begets lie, hate breeds more hate, violence spawns greater violence, and the circle of evil gains momentum as each races in the wicked footsteps of the other, trying to outstrip the other in evil-doing, striving to repay the other with greater evil.
True christians will shun such snares by refusing to complete the first circle or set it in motion by returning evil for evil. Instead, they will counter with good. “Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good.”—Matt. 5:44; Rom. 12:21,


The point to consider is - that God would not have granted his creatures moral freedom and at the same time prevented them from doing evil should they choose to do so. Jesus referred to a misuse of free will when he said of the Devil: “He did not stand fast in the truth.” (John 8:44) That statement clearly indicates that the one who became the Devil was originally a perfect spirit person, who at one time did “stand fast in the truth.” Jehovah God made his creatures free moral agents because he loves us. So whose side are you on?

[Old_Geezer]

From my point of view, good and evil are human concepts. The question probably is meaninglessness to a deity.

[vulcan42]

\/ Jehovah God made his creatures free moral agents because he loves us.\/
He loves us so much he gave us the ability to create evil, nice one goodlife.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, can you explain why God created a worm that can only survive by burrowing into the eyes of other creatures?

[TWR]

Mankind / Greed / Jealousy / Other peoples possessions are the result of evil,