Atheist Authors/broadcasters Talk Rubbish….

[naomi24]

….. a cry often seen on these pages – and this from a week or so back.

//I find that the propaganda spouted by such as Fry and Dawkins is just as gibberish rubbish as you think the bible expounds//

If someone asks me why I think the bible contains nonsense I am happy to tell them and to go into detail if necessary, but I asked the author of that gem to explain to me what precisely these people say that makes their opinions “gibberish rubbish”, and was met with silence.

In the hope of obtaining an answer from him or from anyone else who thinks the same I’ll throw the question open to all.

[grasscarp]

Admissible evidence in this context Naomi? This is answerbank not a law court! You can trawl the internet to find plenty of rubbish from Fry on many subjects.
For example
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10966212/Does-Stephen-Fry-ever-think-before-he-opens-his-mouth.html

[naomi24]

Oops, there he goes - again. :o)

[naomi24]

... and there she goes - again. :o)

[naomi24]

I don't think Khandro and Grasscarp want to talk about his views on religion.

[grasscarp]

Sorry I forgot you don't actually want examples. You probably hoped for none. If you can't deny Dawkins and Fry talk rubbish, make dismissive comments about posters.

[Khandro]

//I don't think Khandro and Grasscarp want to talk about his views on religion.//
I'd rather eat worms than listen to Fry's views on religion - or anything else, naomi, I can't stand the guy; the last I heard him he was lambasting President Putin for not wanting schoolchildren to be taught about homosexuality. I think he's something of a sad freak.

[naomi24]

Grasscarp, //I forgot you don't actually want examples.//

I do want examples – but this question isn’t about sex, so the one you provided is irrelevant.

Khandro, //I'd rather eat worms than listen to Fry's views on religion//

In that case you have no idea what he says and therefore offer informed comment.

Oh my, how bitter you two are.

[naomi24]

//therefore offer informed comment. //

*cannot* offer informed comment.

[grasscarp]

Did you bother to read the Telegraph extract Naomi? It was not the same as the Guardian. It does mention Operation Yewtree, so some about sex, but also about MP expenses scandal - he thought it nothing much. Of course from Fry - who once lived the highlife for 3 months on stolen credit cards.
And he spoke about the Polish people. This led to him apologising later and saying his words were idiotic, ignorant and offensive.
But he can talk rubbish about many many things but everything he says about religion is thought out and spot in. Right.

[naomi24]

Grasscarp, //But he can talk rubbish about many many things but everything he says about religion is thought out and spot in. Right.//

So what does he say about religion that’s rubbish?

[jomifl]

/ a book which turned a rather average scientist into a very rich atheist/ An ex colleague of mine was a visiting professor at Oxford University and was well acquainted with Richard Dawkins whom he held in the highest regard. Even an 'average scientist' can recognise bowlocks when he hears it..

[grasscarp]

Here is some rubbish about religion from Fry
http://sandwalk.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/stephen-fry-blows-it-by-assuming-he.html?m=1

[Khandro]

jomifl; //.....was a visiting professor at Oxford University and was well acquainted with Richard Dawkins//

Ah, that would be when Dawkins held his Mickey Mouse professorship, paid for specifically for him, by a computer software Billionaire.

[jomifl]

ouch :-)

[nailit]

///Ah, that would be when Dawkins held his Mickey Mouse professorship, paid for specifically for him, by a computer software Billionaire.///
Thats intriuged me, got a link?

[jomifl]

So we will ignore his assistant professorship at Berkely and his lectureship at Oxford (unsponsored by millionaires).

[naomi24]

Grasscarp, I think he's talking sense. Why do you think it's rubbish?