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Is Everyone Who Disagrees With Abortion Evil?
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I've just been told as much.
I have a subsidiary question: why are some people (whether through bigotry, lack of education, or poverty of imagination I don't know) unable to accept that people who disagree with them may do so for honorable and decent reasons?
I have a subsidiary question: why are some people (whether through bigotry, lack of education, or poverty of imagination I don't know) unable to accept that people who disagree with them may do so for honorable and decent reasons?
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Jackdaw - //This what Retro and DB are referring to: "My view is that anti- abortionists are very nasty people, and of course, I am entitled to hold that view". // Indeed - I have allowed my emotions to get the better of me, for which I apologise, and withdraw the statement.
16:31 Tue 29th Sep 2015
I have no issue with those who voice their opposition to mindless abortions but rather with those who oppose any and all abortions, (regardless of circumstances), mindlessly. And it is not so much that one opposes abortion as the manner and lengths they are willing to go to impose their opposition to abortion upon others by providing living proof that abortion is not necessarily the most thoughtless thing one can choose to do not only to those who have not yet taken their first breath. No child deserves to be born into such a world.
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We live on a very overpopulated planet. Insisting that every conception goes on to be born would further compromise the situation and put at risk the welfare of the already born.
All life has been a continuum back to when the self replication began. Choosing conception as a special point of "the beginning of life" is entirely arbitrary. One could equally argue that letting an egg go unfertilized is denying an opportunity for a life.
All life has been a continuum back to when the self replication began. Choosing conception as a special point of "the beginning of life" is entirely arbitrary. One could equally argue that letting an egg go unfertilized is denying an opportunity for a life.
Jackdaw33 - "Simples, Birdie. The word slave in the Bible has a different meaning to the present one. It simply meant servant."
No it didn't. That is simply wrong. Having read the bible, the word "slave" means the same then as it does today. It means a person who is either forced into or born into bondage. This person may be housed, fed, watered and clothed but they receive no money in exchange for their labour and they absolutely cannot leave the 'service' of their own volition. The word "slavery" is not a an ancient word for "low paid job". It means then what it means now - forced labour.
If you have evidence that contradicts my interpretation, please feel free to share it.
By the way, I've already had this debate with 'Theland' and he couldn't square this particular circle either. He ended up admitting that the bible fails to condemn slavery. Then he disappeared. Understandable really - when, after much research, it turns out that your holy scriptures fail to denounce a barbaric practice, what else can you do but go silent?
No it didn't. That is simply wrong. Having read the bible, the word "slave" means the same then as it does today. It means a person who is either forced into or born into bondage. This person may be housed, fed, watered and clothed but they receive no money in exchange for their labour and they absolutely cannot leave the 'service' of their own volition. The word "slavery" is not a an ancient word for "low paid job". It means then what it means now - forced labour.
If you have evidence that contradicts my interpretation, please feel free to share it.
By the way, I've already had this debate with 'Theland' and he couldn't square this particular circle either. He ended up admitting that the bible fails to condemn slavery. Then he disappeared. Understandable really - when, after much research, it turns out that your holy scriptures fail to denounce a barbaric practice, what else can you do but go silent?
I must admit to being against the general trend here. I am not catholic (anymore) but vehemently against abortion, as used in another form of contraception. It is a different story when the mother's life is endangered or the pregnancy the result of rape, where the pregnancy is usually terminated at a very early stage.
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Not everyone who is against abortion is evil. However, the extreme anti-abortionists who threaten and intimidate the nurses and doctors who carry out the procedure, and the unfortunate women who are about to go through it, are very nasty.
I don't know why they think it's better for a child to be born despite its parents being unable or unwilling to care for it. There can't be much worse in life than being an unwanted child.
I don't know why they think it's better for a child to be born despite its parents being unable or unwilling to care for it. There can't be much worse in life than being an unwanted child.
A 10 week embryo is already a recognisable moving human being. Rather than being evil to oppose killing that pre-child, it is evil to abort it.
I've never protested against abortion or support any intimidation against those who do, but just feel it is wrong. Unfortunately, like most opinions, it is the radicals that get the attention and blacken subject's validity.
I've never protested against abortion or support any intimidation against those who do, but just feel it is wrong. Unfortunately, like most opinions, it is the radicals that get the attention and blacken subject's validity.
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