The Bishop Speaks Out

[Khandro]

The Bishop of Regensburg, Rudolf Voderholzer, said on January 30 that there could be no reconciliation between Christians and Muslims. Islam is a "post-Christian phenomenon, with the claim to negate the core content of Christianity," he said. "Only those who do not know their own faith or do not take it seriously can consider a comprehensive integration of Islam as possible."

[Baldric]

The Gatestone Institute again by any chance?

[Khandro]

Well, his timely words are not likely to be reported by the Guardian are they?

[naomi24]

He's right.

[hereIam]

I agree with him.

[wildwood]

At least Christianity has moved on as the world's invisible Society rules evolve. One would have gambled with one's life to admit that one was an Atheist, luckily we have moved on from there.

Islam still demands that women are family property and are inferior to men.

Any deviation from Allah's word, be it by action or belief, can be met with the most gruesome consequences.

[Old_Geezer]

Is Christianity reconciled with Judaism ? From a Jewish point of view isn't Christianity a post-Judaism phenomenon ?

[Khandro]

O.G. In a sense, Judaism is probably one of the world's oldest religions, -there was some form of what became Taoism earlier- then came Hinduism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Christianity, which have all interacted to some degree, only the latest; Islam has tried to suppress by force all the others.

P.S.I have been reading once again this morning about the Zaporozhian Cossaks and their reply to the Sultan - they were having none of it :0)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

[keyplus90]

So I suppose he knows his faith.

[naomi24]

Sounds like he knows a bit about yours too, Keyplus.

[Jackdaw33]

Khandro's link is a hoot.

[andy-hughes]

Nice to know that entrenched bigoted short-sighted nastiness is not the exclusive property of IS and similar.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, what are you talking about?

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - I think my point is perfectly clear - but if you need it explaining, I am delighted to do so.

Islamist extremists believe that their view is the only view, and anyone else should be destroyed. The notion of living side by side with anyone who thinks differently from them is simply not conceivable.

It would appear that Bishop Volderholzer is of exactly the same view - the typical lofty superior 'I have something you don't, and that makes me a better person than you' view of the high-minded Christian bigot.

Even I know that Jesus spent a lifetime trying to unite people and bring them together to love each other, and that was his wish, and the wish of God, so if I can see that, why can't he?

[Jackdaw33]

//the typical lofty superior 'I have something you don't\\

Now who does that remind me of?

[andy-hughes]

jackdaw - //Now who does that remind me of? //

That's for you to know, and the rest of us not to be bothered about.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //The notion of living side by side with anyone who thinks differently from them [Islamist extremists] is simply not conceivable.//

In that case the Bishop is right. It is impossible to live side by side with those who deem it inconceivable.

//Even I know that Jesus spent a lifetime trying to unite people and bring them together to love each other, and that was his wish//

That’s a popular fallacy – but a fallacy nonetheless.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //That’s a popular fallacy – but a fallacy nonetheless. //

Is that a fallacy because you are not a Christian, and don't believe Jesus was the Son of God, or is there another reason?

[DTCwordfan]

eliminate both of them, Christians and Muslims and anybody else with such non-realistic thinking.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, if it was my opinion, I would say so. I did not.