God Is Or Is Not.

[Theland]

If God IS, then all of our big questions about origins, are answered.
If God IS NOT, then the alternative is purely materialistic.
What do you say?
Obviously there are atheists who believe the latter. So please guide me to the evidence for a purely materialistic origin, beginning of life, and evolution.
Please feel free to guide me towards any YouTube videos where atheistic experts can convince me that a purely materialistic scenario is the only option.
I am eager to understand the atheist mindset.

[jim360]

// If God IS, then all of our big questions about origins, are answered.
If God IS NOT, then the alternative is purely materialistic. //

Sounds like God not being around is more interesting. I'd hate to live in a world where there were no big questions left to answer :)

[naomi24]

//I am eager to understand the atheist mindset//

What is the ‘atheist mindset’? Atheists don’t belong to a club where all are required to follow the same hobby. They don’t believe in gods. What’s to understand?

[Theland]

Naomi - All the world famous atheists have a lot of beliefs in common.
Dawkins, Hawking, Tyson, Krauss, Dennet and more.
Ideas on the origin of the universe and life. Evolution, and the origin of information.
Not a club as you say, but assertions that could be challenged.
However, from the tone of all of the posts, my input is unwelcome, so that's that.

[naomi24]

Playing the victim ... again.

[Theland]

Not playing the victim at all.
Just the simple realisation that my input is unwelcome.
Proof? Read the posts.

[naomi24]

I’ve read the posts.

[Theland]

Then it should be patently obvious to you that I am not playing the victim, just responding to the content and tone of the posts.

[beso]

God is not an answer but an even bigger question. From where and what came God?

Moreover. "Let there be...." is not an answer to how the Universe originated.

[Theland]

https://youtu.be/UjGPHF5A6Po
Naomi - A six minute gift for you. X

[retrocop]

That's it then.Good night. Amen. May your God be with you always.

[Theland]

Thank you. He is. Amen.

[mibn2cweus]

Never ceases to amaze me the potential that belief in 'God' has to obliterate the human mind.

[Theland]

"Obliterate the human mind?" How so?
My mind is not obliterated and completely open.

[Theland]

Mibs - If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing?
Do you think science can answer this?
Over to you Mibs.

[mibn2cweus]

Postulating a god has never explained anything let alone where god came from. You'll never know why until you learn how. Once you learn how the why becomes self-evident. Believing is not a substitute for learning nor a short cut to knowing. If you care enough to know the answer than be prepared to do the math. You'll never learn anything by simply believing with complete disregard of and contempt for the method, means and process.

That you would offer that video as a 'gift' should be all the confirmation required for any reasonably rational person to realise how severely your judgment has been compromised by your beliefs.

[rowanwitch]

Both positions require an acceptance of the concept of infinity. Either an infinite god or an infinite expanding collapsing universe cycle.
Both concepts require an element of belief because neither can be proved only the balance of probabilties comes down on the side of science.

I have friends with deep and abiding faith who I love and respect They say god is behind this.. I say it is a bio feedback where actions result in reward reinforcement The result is the same.

So either position it matters not for in an infinite universe with no real value to time we barely exist.

[Old_Geezer]

If God IS, then all of our big questions about origins, are simply pushed back to become questions about the origin of God.
If God IS NOT, then the alternative is to look for more satisfying explanations regarding the origins of things we sense, using maths and physics and a good imagination to come up with hypothesis; hopefully those we can test.

I doubt one is ever restricted purely to the materialistic but that's the stuff one can usually test; and if it comes up with an explanation that'd be enough for many.

[naomi24]

Theland, A gift? Oh do stop with the sanctimonious rubbish. I don’t need your videos. The bible tells me your god was not the omnipotent creator.

[Old_Geezer]

I have some sympathy for Theland. Responses often appear aggressive, possibly because they result from a 'what, this again ?!' frame of mind. That said I still think videos are for backing up arguments/opinions already explained rather than used as a 'go look at this in your own time, it'll help explain/convince you because I don't wish to myself' tactic. Those putting forward a point of view should put in the effort, not those critiquing it having to go find out what it is.

[beso]

Theland //I am eager to understand the atheist mindset.//

No you aren't. The science has been explained to you many times and you never engage in conversation. You haven't the slightest curiosity about it because your mind is firmly set in Biblical nonsense.