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Why Atheists Debate With Theists
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It was suggested in another thread that atheists who debate/contribute to R&S are obsessive and may require therapy. I cant speak for other non-believers but I can speak for myself.
I debate/contribute to R&S for the same reasons that the politically minded contribute to news, for the same reason that right wingers will debate left wingers. I have minimal interest in politics so don't often get involved in those debates. I also don't have much knowledge of politics but I do have some knowledge of religion and in particular the Bible. I am not obsessive, I have stated many times that I have fundamentalist Christian friends and that I work with Christians but the topic of faith/belief rarely crops up in day to day life and I rarely, if ever, think about it. But if questions of faith arise, I WILL, give my viewpoint - as I do on here.
I don't believe in God or some supernatural being, I don't believe in biblical prophecy and I don't believe in miracles...and will give my reasons why when asked. When the Bible is toted as truth I will give my reasons why I don't believe that. When the Bible is held up as a moral guide book I will say why it isn't.
Some people on here seem to have an 'obsessive' interest in other sections of the site. I wouldn't say that they needed 'therapy'. We all have our own interests and mine happens to be R&S mainly because its something that I know a little about.
Hope this helps ;-)
I debate/contribute to R&S for the same reasons that the politically minded contribute to news, for the same reason that right wingers will debate left wingers. I have minimal interest in politics so don't often get involved in those debates. I also don't have much knowledge of politics but I do have some knowledge of religion and in particular the Bible. I am not obsessive, I have stated many times that I have fundamentalist Christian friends and that I work with Christians but the topic of faith/belief rarely crops up in day to day life and I rarely, if ever, think about it. But if questions of faith arise, I WILL, give my viewpoint - as I do on here.
I don't believe in God or some supernatural being, I don't believe in biblical prophecy and I don't believe in miracles...and will give my reasons why when asked. When the Bible is toted as truth I will give my reasons why I don't believe that. When the Bible is held up as a moral guide book I will say why it isn't.
Some people on here seem to have an 'obsessive' interest in other sections of the site. I wouldn't say that they needed 'therapy'. We all have our own interests and mine happens to be R&S mainly because its something that I know a little about.
Hope this helps ;-)
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Theland. I believe that you are an honest, moral, human being.
Your mental gymnastics in defense of the God of the Bible is causing you anguish...I guarantee it is.
Cognative bias kicks in and trying to wrestle with the horrors of what you read in scripture causes defense mechanisms to also kick in.
You know what you read is hokum because you have morals. I know you do. This constant seeking of validation (for the atrocities contained in the Bible) shows it.
You *KNOW* that's its indefensible from a moral point of view.
Ive been where you are. Afraid, unsure, insecure.
But you know what? When I acknowledged that I just didn't know...it what liberating. I didn't have to believe in a judgmental God anymore. I didn't have to jump through hoops trying to get God off the hook all the time for all the immoral acts he is purported to have committed in the Bible.
Despite a lot of sarcasm passing between us in some posts, I believe that you are a good man, an honest man and a moral human being.
And you are struggling (like I did) to reconcile a Bible based faith with your own character.
Bible God does you no justice.
Your mental gymnastics in defense of the God of the Bible is causing you anguish...I guarantee it is.
Cognative bias kicks in and trying to wrestle with the horrors of what you read in scripture causes defense mechanisms to also kick in.
You know what you read is hokum because you have morals. I know you do. This constant seeking of validation (for the atrocities contained in the Bible) shows it.
You *KNOW* that's its indefensible from a moral point of view.
Ive been where you are. Afraid, unsure, insecure.
But you know what? When I acknowledged that I just didn't know...it what liberating. I didn't have to believe in a judgmental God anymore. I didn't have to jump through hoops trying to get God off the hook all the time for all the immoral acts he is purported to have committed in the Bible.
Despite a lot of sarcasm passing between us in some posts, I believe that you are a good man, an honest man and a moral human being.
And you are struggling (like I did) to reconcile a Bible based faith with your own character.
Bible God does you no justice.
Gym - No. Christianity has been corrupted by many churches and man made religions.
Look at the Ecumenical movement, an attempt to lump all religions together under one authority.
This is what is prophecied in the bible, zone world religion.
That is why I gave up going to my local Church of England, and now just follow the teachings of the bible to the best of my ability.
Religion is mans attempt to reconcile himself to God, Christianity is God reconciling us to
Look at the Ecumenical movement, an attempt to lump all religions together under one authority.
This is what is prophecied in the bible, zone world religion.
That is why I gave up going to my local Church of England, and now just follow the teachings of the bible to the best of my ability.
Religion is mans attempt to reconcile himself to God, Christianity is God reconciling us to
Nailit - I can't UNknow God.
He has touched me and my life.
I appreciate your concern for my welfare.
I am in poor health, have family problems, and often struggle. But God disciplines those He loves, so life is not a bed of roses.
But the knowledge that God will get me through, by me doing His will, is truly liberating and wonderful.
He has touched me and my life.
I appreciate your concern for my welfare.
I am in poor health, have family problems, and often struggle. But God disciplines those He loves, so life is not a bed of roses.
But the knowledge that God will get me through, by me doing His will, is truly liberating and wonderful.
//But God disciplines those He loves//
What, by giving you poor health, struggle and family problems?
Not the way that I would discipline my own son (Here son, theres a bit of cancer for you, followed by some money worries and a relationship breakup...that'll teach you a bit of discipline).
That cobblers and you know it mate.
What, by giving you poor health, struggle and family problems?
Not the way that I would discipline my own son (Here son, theres a bit of cancer for you, followed by some money worries and a relationship breakup...that'll teach you a bit of discipline).
That cobblers and you know it mate.
Compare that to the barbarism of Islam today.
A few months ago, an eight year old boy stole something, can't remember which Arab country.
The crowds gathered, a thin towel was a rapped around the boys right arm, and he was held down whilst a Landrover was driven slowly over the child's arm a few times to break it.
Allah indeed. And that is just one example from T.
A few months ago, an eight year old boy stole something, can't remember which Arab country.
The crowds gathered, a thin towel was a rapped around the boys right arm, and he was held down whilst a Landrover was driven slowly over the child's arm a few times to break it.
Allah indeed. And that is just one example from T.
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