Who Is Ruling The Earth Satan Or God Or Man

[locusts]

IS Satan a ruler of this system or this world - because it is in such a mess and he is using man to destroy himself -- because of HIS selfish desires.
The say Bible at John .14.30 it's giving me the information .???

[Theland]

Unhindered by man made religions with bells and smells.

[naomi24]

Theland, //Again I am innocent of my accusers allegations.//

Do you believe that children are born sinners? A 'yes' or 'no' will do.

// Corbyloon, no parts of the bible were added by men.
It is divinely inspired.//

Oh really? I’ll put the contradictions down to God having had a number of off days then.

Locusts, //IN the beginning Satan was a cherub and he was giving a very high position in the Garden of Eden as a caretaker His job is to take care about Adam and Eve//

Where did you get that from?

[Theland]

Children are born with a human nature.
Our human nature is fallen and has a predisposition to self.

[naomi24]

That'll be a 'yes' then. Shame on you.

[Theland]

Shame? My word you are not slow to insult ..... as ever.

[naomi24]

Theland, Whilst you’re promulgating damaging nonsense such as that you are not innocent.

[RobNorth]

White mice.

[Theland]

Eh? What?

[Theland]

Naomi - p!ease stop trying to impress.
Your posts reveal a real lack of understanding of science, theology, philosophy and anthropology.
The only one you impress is the one looking back at you in your mirror.
Maybe that's why in desperation you revert to insults.
So, the shame is not mine.

[naomi24]

Attacking me does nothing to address the reprehensible moral code of someone who justifies what you justify, Theland.

[Theland]

Attacking you? No!
Your assumptions of your own superiority are simply reflected straight back at you. Nothing more.
And what do I defend?
A well known fact that all babies are born with a human nature that in time will prove to be capable of sin, that is, incapable of ever reaching human perfection as God intended.
Only one person in the history of the world has ever lived a life truly without sin.
No prizes for guessing the answer.
No shame for me either.

[naomi24]

I feel sorry for you, Theland.

[Theland]

Thanks but I don't need sympathy.

[Theland]

You talk about my reprehensible moral code.
Are you also expert on morals and ethics?

[naomi24]

I don’t feel sympathy for you, Theland - just sorry that you seek to justify the abhorrent with no thought of the effect your ramblings may have on others. You appear utterly incapable of distinguishing between what's morally right and what's morally wrong. Perhaps you should take a good hard look in that mirror you mentioned.

[naomi24]

//You talk about my reprehensible moral code.
Are you also expert on morals and ethics? //

I know the difference between right and wrong - and between truth and lies.

[Theland]

Ah now that's interesting.
A whole new ball game.
Believe me, no matter how often you unjustifiably try to put me down, you fail to see your actions as must plain wrong.
Talk about morals? Whose? Dawkins maybe? Hawking?

[naomi24]

I don’t know what you find objectionable about Dawkins’ or Hawking's morals, Theland, or even what you know about that - just what do you know about their morals? - but my moral code is my own. You justify the most abhorrent in defence of your God and think that’s worthy. You think it acceptable to instil fear into the vulnerable, you justify genocide, retribution, and torment, even to the extent that you say the holocaust was all part of God’s plan - and all because you think you can save your own selfish, sorry soul from the inevitable. Death. People like me watch what you're doing - and weep.

[Peter Pedant]

why do I take this crap seriously?
my concordance on 14 30 and I have taken the trouble to read it says ( barrett ) the order of 14 15 16 chaps are a matter of discourse
and this is possible the crucifixion as a struggle between Jesus and Satan
( oh it is
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me)

it is Sunday and I feel improved

do I feel Satan won - perhaps won that battle but not won the war - read on (*) resurrection comes next ! - er as predicted

(*) The Divine Oscar was given a NT passage to translate in an oral exam and said when it was 'enough' - oh do let me go on I am dying to see how it ends !

[Theland]

08:04 - putting words in my mouth.
I have never said the things you c!aim.
Dawkins? A joke. A rich joke.