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Who Is Ruling The Earth Satan Or God Or Man
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IS Satan a ruler of this system or this world - because it is in such a mess and he is using man to destroy himself -- because of HIS selfish desires.
The say Bible at John .14.30 it's giving me the information .???
The say Bible at John .14.30 it's giving me the information .???
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Dawkins is on record as saying the universe is blindly indifferent and there is no good or evil. We simp!y dance to the imperative of our genes.
Really Mr Dawkins?
Remember, for example, the Soham murders of schoolgirls Jessica and Holly by that evil monster Ian Huntley?
That was an example of depraved wilful evil, certainly not dancing to any genetic imperative.
Yes, without an objective moral authority, we can all claim moral autonomy, as you do, a recipe for chaos.
You know right from wrong? By what authority?
The next person is then also autonomous, and may have a different moral standard to you.
Without an objective moral authority to appeal to, you have no right to impose your moral code on anybody else.
I have not got quite used to you flailing about throwing out your fabricated allegations of what I have or not said.
With every post you expose yourself a little more, and you kid nobody, certainly not me.
Really Mr Dawkins?
Remember, for example, the Soham murders of schoolgirls Jessica and Holly by that evil monster Ian Huntley?
That was an example of depraved wilful evil, certainly not dancing to any genetic imperative.
Yes, without an objective moral authority, we can all claim moral autonomy, as you do, a recipe for chaos.
You know right from wrong? By what authority?
The next person is then also autonomous, and may have a different moral standard to you.
Without an objective moral authority to appeal to, you have no right to impose your moral code on anybody else.
I have not got quite used to you flailing about throwing out your fabricated allegations of what I have or not said.
With every post you expose yourself a little more, and you kid nobody, certainly not me.
Theland - // Also, the general tone sinks into cross examination mode rather than friendly discussion.
I am not responsible for that. //
I pointed out to you a few weeks ago that you absolutely are responsible, and as I expected, you have chosen to ignore my advice, as I knew you would.
It's this simple -
Naomi, whom I have discussed, debated, argued, fallen out with, and generally interacted with on this site for a number of years, retains my respect for her intelligence, willingness to fight her corner, and usual unflappability.
Until she debates with you - still with a level of patience that I admire, but even she is reduced to utter frustration by your approach, which is the same as your fellow 'fervents' on here - the unshakeable belief that you are absolutely right, and that anyone who fails to agree with you is simply too ignorant to understand.
Goodlife pondered yesterday why he comes on here, and frankly, I wonder what it is about you fervents that puts you on here day after day, asking questions to which there are no definitive answers, then 'answering' them yourselves, and then arguing with a maddening sense of superiority with absolutely anyone who questions you or takes an alternative view.
It cannot make you happy, or give a sense of enjoyment or satisfaction because it simply goes nowhere, and I offer you the same link I offered Goodlife - maybe you will think about it, but I am sure you won't - why stop the habit of a lifetime …
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I am not responsible for that. //
I pointed out to you a few weeks ago that you absolutely are responsible, and as I expected, you have chosen to ignore my advice, as I knew you would.
It's this simple -
Naomi, whom I have discussed, debated, argued, fallen out with, and generally interacted with on this site for a number of years, retains my respect for her intelligence, willingness to fight her corner, and usual unflappability.
Until she debates with you - still with a level of patience that I admire, but even she is reduced to utter frustration by your approach, which is the same as your fellow 'fervents' on here - the unshakeable belief that you are absolutely right, and that anyone who fails to agree with you is simply too ignorant to understand.
Goodlife pondered yesterday why he comes on here, and frankly, I wonder what it is about you fervents that puts you on here day after day, asking questions to which there are no definitive answers, then 'answering' them yourselves, and then arguing with a maddening sense of superiority with absolutely anyone who questions you or takes an alternative view.
It cannot make you happy, or give a sense of enjoyment or satisfaction because it simply goes nowhere, and I offer you the same link I offered Goodlife - maybe you will think about it, but I am sure you won't - why stop the habit of a lifetime …
https:/
Eve1974// 20:55 Sat 08th Aug 2020 I believe God is ruling the world BUT ... is allowing Satan to influence us and cause havoc
Eve 1974 // 21:00 Sat 08th Aug 2020 To me the 2 are not mutually exclusive. My husband is alive and we thanks the amazing NHS and we ALSO thank God.
//thank you for sharing those words of comfort and letting us have the pleasure of your experience .. And that god does Exist There are many on here he Will Mock You . KEEP your integrity or Faith - So keep up your straight and your spirituality .And to serve your creator and God. He has got answer to prayers in his own way.. Not in a way we may think ????
Here is a few scriptures which may help you with your praying Matt- 6-9 James .4-8 Psalms 139- 23-24 Romans 8.26.27 Ephesians 3-20
Eve 1974 // 21:00 Sat 08th Aug 2020 To me the 2 are not mutually exclusive. My husband is alive and we thanks the amazing NHS and we ALSO thank God.
//thank you for sharing those words of comfort and letting us have the pleasure of your experience .. And that god does Exist There are many on here he Will Mock You . KEEP your integrity or Faith - So keep up your straight and your spirituality .And to serve your creator and God. He has got answer to prayers in his own way.. Not in a way we may think ????
Here is a few scriptures which may help you with your praying Matt- 6-9 James .4-8 Psalms 139- 23-24 Romans 8.26.27 Ephesians 3-20
//Who Is Ruling The Earth Satan Or God Or Man//
You left one alternative out. Reality rules. And once you realise that and learn the rules you might find ways to make reality rule in your favour. Hint - making up your own or believing someone else's 'rules' without understanding what in reality makes it a rule is cheating and reality has its ways of justly compensating cheaters. A bad day in R&S might just be one of them.
You left one alternative out. Reality rules. And once you realise that and learn the rules you might find ways to make reality rule in your favour. Hint - making up your own or believing someone else's 'rules' without understanding what in reality makes it a rule is cheating and reality has its ways of justly compensating cheaters. A bad day in R&S might just be one of them.
midn2cweus/ You left one alternative out. Reality rules.
/// reality in my life is my god the one who created me and gave me life -he is the one who is my father the one who takes care of me through day to day you may not find comfort in this but I do and the reality is from his word he left behind for us to take on board- The reality of the things to come- not of the past - The things to come is a reality and a a promise which will be fulfil in his own good time and will be life in a paradise .
you may call me stupid or a crack pot but that is my belief
/// reality in my life is my god the one who created me and gave me life -he is the one who is my father the one who takes care of me through day to day you may not find comfort in this but I do and the reality is from his word he left behind for us to take on board- The reality of the things to come- not of the past - The things to come is a reality and a a promise which will be fulfil in his own good time and will be life in a paradise .
you may call me stupid or a crack pot but that is my belief
Theland, Please don’t accuse me of lying. It’s something I don’t do … and to be honest I’m getting a bit bored with searching out original posts to support what I’ve said. I had to do that on another thread recently, and like you now, Theland, the accusers ended up with custard pie on their faces. Take a look at your bit:
You said elsewhere: //God kept His promise, and it [the holocaust] was brought about by events that were ordained by God to achieve His purpose…. Even Hitlers holocaust was a contributory factor…. the agencies bringing it about are irrelevant. From the centuries of Jewish persecution, the amazing coherence of a nation without a land, the Russian pogroms, Theodore Herzle, WW1, the Balfour Declaration, the rise of Hitler, WW2, the Holocaust, the British Mandate, the U.N. vote, to name just a few, are all the circumstances brought about by Gods will.//
Theland, you told Corbyloon here that // no parts of the bible were added by men. It is divinely inspired.//
And yet elsewhere you said it was written by Jews for Jews. Hey ho.
Incidentally, I hadn’t realised we were in competition but since you’ve decided we are, time to come clean on those scores you invented.
You said elsewhere: //God kept His promise, and it [the holocaust] was brought about by events that were ordained by God to achieve His purpose…. Even Hitlers holocaust was a contributory factor…. the agencies bringing it about are irrelevant. From the centuries of Jewish persecution, the amazing coherence of a nation without a land, the Russian pogroms, Theodore Herzle, WW1, the Balfour Declaration, the rise of Hitler, WW2, the Holocaust, the British Mandate, the U.N. vote, to name just a few, are all the circumstances brought about by Gods will.//
Theland, you told Corbyloon here that // no parts of the bible were added by men. It is divinely inspired.//
And yet elsewhere you said it was written by Jews for Jews. Hey ho.
Incidentally, I hadn’t realised we were in competition but since you’ve decided we are, time to come clean on those scores you invented.
Indeed, history suits Gods purposes, indeed they are Gods purposes.
All men have free will to bend history to their own ends, but God who knows the end from the beginning is not fazed, and history itself forms part of His plan.
So what's your problem besides a lack of understanding?
Yes, the bible was written by Jews for Jews and divinely inspired.
Again, what's your problem?
Finally, why are you asking these questions when it is so obvious you are not seeking God?
All men have free will to bend history to their own ends, but God who knows the end from the beginning is not fazed, and history itself forms part of His plan.
So what's your problem besides a lack of understanding?
Yes, the bible was written by Jews for Jews and divinely inspired.
Again, what's your problem?
Finally, why are you asking these questions when it is so obvious you are not seeking God?
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