The Return Of The God Hypothesis.

[Theland]

There appears no way that the universe arose from nothing, but came from a preexisting mind, that is God.

https://youtu.be/uInJoikDgpY

It seems the atheist scientists have hit a brick wall!
Can you rescue them?

[naomi24]

//They are overwhelming but so cleverly put together as to be completely hidden from a casual peruser but require an element of commitment and vocation to be properly appreciated.//

And Theland, who doesn't adhere to any established faith but has invented his own, is the only man in the world to have discovered the secret. It's a miracle!

I was going to say 'Get real, Theland', but it's pointless. You can''t. You're too far gone.

[Theland]

Too far gone?
You a psychologist now?
You sound desperate on account of not getting through.
Its important to score points isn't it Naomi?
You never stop trying, but never try addressing the issues.

[Theland]

An element of vocation = yes it requires some application.
For example, learning how to understand the typology, also understanding parts of the prophets by referencing the history in Kings.
So how does that invite sneering comments?

[naomi24]

//try addressing the issues.//

I'm pretty sure I've addressed every issue you've ever raised. Perhaps your penchant for ignoring that with which you can't argue is confusing you.

[Theland]

Nothing you ever say is confusing, other than your insistence on telling me that historically you have answered everything.
Not good enough.
If only for new readers, give your answers.
Don't hide behind a cloud of mystery.

[naomi24]

What on earth are you talking about? What answers do you want that you think I haven't provided?

[Theland]

God spoke through His prophets to warn His people and promise them what would befall them, and eventually what the final word would be.
Prophecy and history are congruent, easily checked.
Only God could reveal the future in such detail.
If you disagree, where?v

[mibn2cweus]

Were they called 'profits' because they were extraordinarily good at predicting the lottery? Time travelers perhaps?

[naomi24]

Theland. //Prophecy and history are ….easily checked.//

Indeed. Here you are. Try it. I’m sure I’ve posted this or something like it before but I guess you’ve forgotten, just as you’ve forgotten all the other responses I’ve given to your questions.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_prophecies

[naomi24]

There are definitely profits in it for many, mibs.

[Theland]

That wiki article, quite obviously from its tone throughout, is written sarcastically and with bias.
In one fell swoop you have given me a months worth of replies to contemplate. No chance!
The smokescreen, for that is what it is, does nothing to detract anything I have said previously.
I'll come back to this.

[naomi24]

Haha! Bias and sarcasm ... because it doesn't suit you to be presented with prophecies that haven't been fulfilled.

[Theland]

The wiki article is wrong on Tyre for a start.

https://biblearchaeology.org/research/divided-kingdom/3304-ezekiel-26114-a-proof-text-for-inerrancy-or-fallibility-of-the-old-testament

[naomi24]

Theland, why do you do it? You invariably meet critical scrutiny with something constructed by a Christian organisation bent on proving the bible at any cost. You remind me of Islamic scholars who turn themselves inside out trying to prove the veracity of the wonky science of the Koran. Tyre is one of the oldest continually inhabited cities in the world and it was not destroyed. It still exists. I know that because I’ve been there.

[Atheist]

Theland; here is some of the Ezeke reference-
“For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar[b] king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army. 8 He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword; he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls and raise his shields against you. 9 He will direct the blows of his battering rams against your walls and demolish your towers with his weapons. 10 His horses will be so many that they will cover you with dust. Your walls will tremble at the noise of the warhorses, wagons and chariots when he enters your gates as men enter a city whose walls have been broken through. 11 The hooves of his horses will trample all your streets; he will kill your people with the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground. 12 They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea. 13 I will put an end to your noisy songs, and the music of your harps will be heard no more. 14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

The Sovereign Lord sounds a nasty piece of work!

[Atheist]

...and you worship him!