Evangelical Universalism?

[Theland]

All will be saved?
What do you think?

[andy-hughes]

We'll see.

[Theland]

Hello Andy, I look forward to your opinion.

[Spungle]

No, all will sadly not be saved. God desires all men to be saved and has provided the means of salvation. But not all take advantage of it. It is 'whosoever will.'

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Hello Andy, I look forward to your opinion. //

You've just had it.

[Theland]

Hmmm.
I enjoyed that :-)

[Theland]

Spungle - Have you examined the relevant scriptures?

[Stableford]

Romans 10:9 says That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Those who choose to reject this message, will be lost, not saved.

[Theland]

Some further information.


https://forum.evangelicaluniversalist.com/t/my-top-six-scriptures-that-show-jesus-will-save-all-people/4008

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

The Bible teaches that there are those saved, and those lost. Any other doctrine is not Christianity.

[Theland]

Surely an open mind demands ALL evidence is examined?

[Canary42]

///For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son. . .///

. . . but changed his mind three days later and took him back.

[nailit]

All will die!
Cease to exist!

Thats self evident.
Anything else is conjecture and/or wishful thinking
(with a bit of torture thrown in for the unbelievers in your faith for good measure)

[Theland]

All may be stamped into hot mud by cruel unicorns and gnomes.
Does that bother you as well?

[Spungle]

Yes, I have, Theland. He who does not believe on the Son shall not see life. Jesus Himself stated- Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Some people believe that anyone believing in God, (Jesus, Allah, Buddha etc) will be saved. This is completely against what the Bible teaches, which is that Christ is the only way: "Salvation Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

I agree with Hazi- any other doctrine is false and misleading.

[Theland]

What do the Bogpaper Gravitas say? Any better?

[nailit]

//All may be stamped into hot mud by cruel unicorns and gnomes.
Does that bother you as well?//

What you on about?

[Atheist]

A question or two to those who think that some will be saved and some will be lost (i.e. condemned to eternal torment by a so-called loving god).
Do you think you will be saved or lost?
Would you be upset if you had loved ones who didn't believe in the saved or lost story, and would presumably be lost because of that?
Are you happy or sad to 'know' that your god is capable of allowing eternal torment of poor ignorant beings like humans?

[nailit]

This is hilarious.
Theland hates Catholics but agreeing with a Catholic when it suits.
Couldnt make it up!

[Atheist]

...and do you feel sorry for those poor people who happen to have been born in the wrong part of the planet and have never been taught about Jesus? And those born on other planets?

[Theland]

God says, ''My ways are higher than your ways.''
I trust Him.
I would be a liar if I said it didn't bother me that Nailit appears to be suffering.
I want to help him.