Hell...

[nailit]

Justify it?

[Theland]

As PP says, AB gets lower.

[naomi24]

//Ever since animals were slaughtered to provide covering skins for Adam and Eve, it is by example that blood must be shed to provide a covering for sin. //

Theland, where did you get that from?

[Khandro]

PP: and then he said, "I was only joking".

[naomi24]

PP didn’t read as far as that bit.

[Theland]

Genesis. You never realised this?

[ynnafymmi]

Genesis.After Peter Gabriel left they were rubbish.

[naomi24]

Theland, where in Genesis?

[Theland]

Genesis 3:21

[naomi24]

There you go again, theland. Genesis says nothing if the sort. How did I know you were making it up?

[Theland]

God clothed them with skins. There. That's it.

[naomi24]

But it says nothing about ‘blood must be shed to provide a covering for sin’ does it. You’ve made that up entirely. Why do you lie? Everyone can see you’re doing it. You’re fooling no one.

[Theland]

Let me spell it out for you blow by blow.
God saw Adam and Eve sin, apparent when they discovered their nakedness.
They had tried to cover themselves and protect their modesty by making aprons out of leaves.
God covered them in skins, which means blood was shed to cover their sins/nakedness effectively.
Its as simple as that.

[Atheist]

Theland; what sin did they commit? If it was stealing and eating fruit from a tree, then what has nakedness got to do with it?

[nailit]

This concept that there is no forgiveness without the spilling of blood is a New Testament concept.
Sure, the Old Testament is awash with blood (both animal and human) but the IDEA of *forgiveness of sins* without bloodshed is NOT an old testament idea.
God often forgave both individuals and nations without commanding that blood be spilt.

[nailit]

Theland, what is sinful about been naked with your partner?
Adam & Eve were the only 2 humans on the planet....
How were they supposed to had had sex and be fruitful and multiply otherwise?

[naomi24]

No, theland, it doesn’t mean that - and it doesn’t say that. It simply says god clothed them in skins. Nothing about blood having to be shed at all. You’re making it up.

[nailit]

So much for fig leaves ;-)

[ynnafymmi]

Genesis 3,Genesis 3,Theland?Nursery Crymes has to be about the worst LP ever issued.

[Theland]

I am right. God demands a blood penalty for sin.
I don't know, Nailit, how you arrive at your bizarre conclusions.
They really are incredible.

[Hopkirk]

Adam and Eve didn't exist.

They were made up by people trying to create a story of creation.

Surely no one actually believes the Garden of Eden fantasy?