Where Does God Get His Morals From?

[nailit]

Had a conversation recently with a ''born again'' type
(First conversation with a real life religionist in a while tbh....)

Thankfully only lasted a few minutes (felt like hours...but theres always one)
The usual subject of morals come from.
Atheists have no morals apparently. Or at least no OBJECTIVE morals without God.
I asked whose God?
Allah? Jehovah? Christ? Dionysius? etc.

I then asked where does God (In whatever way you view him/it/her) get THEIR morals from?
Conversation then petered out. (I was late for work anyway so no great loss)
I was in no way provoking an arguement, simply following through a logical discussion with a
question.

If humans need God's guidence to be moral, then where does God get his guidence from?

[Khandro]

naomi; //The fact is dead men don't come back to life. Corpses do not rise from graves to roam cities.//

But was he really dead?

[naomi24]

Of course he wasn't dead - dead men don't come back to life - but he wasn't among the 'corpses' that roamed the city. That was simply a lie.

[Khandro]

naomi; This used, well worth a fiver;
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[naomi24]

I've read it...

...and you've mentioned it before, which is curious. Why would a 'believer' even consider that? Or are you not a 'believer' and just confused?

[Khandro]

There are many types of Christians, some holding contradictory beliefs.
If Christ survived the crucifixion & died later, it doesn't alter the suffering on the cross, or to my mind, fundamentally alter his teachings.

And if you've read the book, you will know that Kersten in no way denigrates Christianity.

[naomi24]

But if he survived the cross, that negates the whole basis of the religion. Jesus died to save us. Err … back to the drawing board.

[Khandro]

Not at all !

[naomi24]

Why? The religion was founded on that promise and that's what it revolves around.

[Khandro]

The religion was founded on the teachings of Jesus, as Buddhism was founded on the teachings of Shakyamuni Buddha.

[naomi24]

Khandro, you can dance around all you like but Christianity is founded on the promise of everlasting life. Without it, there is no Christianity.

[Khandro]

n. //Christianity is founded on the promise of everlasting life. //
and so are other religions.

[naomi24]

We're not talking about other religions.

[Khandro]

// Christianity is founded on the promise of everlasting life//

but like all other religions, "Everlasting Life", "Reincarnation", "Rebirth", they are all equally vague about what it means.

No one knows!

[naomi24]

Christians aren't vague about what it means, khandro.

[Khandro]

Where do I find a clear description please?

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // Where do I find a clear description please? //

I think you'll find the bible is a good starting point.

[naomi24]

khandro, If you want a conversation, do me the courtesy of conducting one without trying to be smart. It doesn't work.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // khandro, If you want a conversation, do me the courtesy of conducting one without trying to be smart. It doesn't work. //

Do you mean Khandro's question about where to find a 'clear description' was being sarcastic?

Who would have thought it ...

[naomi24]

Who indeed? And so out of character for Khandro. ;o)

[Khandro]

AH //I think you'll find the bible is a good starting point.//

Where?