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This is without doubt the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard:
http://stupac2.blogspot.com/2007/05/religious- accommodation.html
Is it for real? Are people who operate electrical switches on the Sabbath destined for hell?
http://stupac2.blogspot.com/2007/05/religious- accommodation.html
Is it for real? Are people who operate electrical switches on the Sabbath destined for hell?
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Hi Llamatron, I can remember my father being asked to go into a Jewish house to put money in the electric meter because the family weren't allowed to do that on the Sabbath. In the case you've given, I'm surprised the lift is an issue bearing in mind that Orthodox Jews must walk everywhere on the Sabbath and aren't allowed to use any form of transport!!!
Are they destined for hell? I wouldn't say so. Hold tight now - Going up!!!
Are they destined for hell? I wouldn't say so. Hold tight now - Going up!!!
I think that was the point. In my dad's case, they asked him to do it because he wasn't Jewish. I presume they wouldn't have asked a Jew. Perhaps the same applies to medical services - although I don't know how they feel about being taken to hospital in an ambulance on the sabbath. Perhaps they have special concessions for emergencies. I think Lonnie's Jewish so might be able to tell us - I'll give him a call.
There are 39 categories of activities that Orthodox and Conservative Jews believe Jews are prohibited to do on Shabbat.
Some observe, some don't.
The consequences: "Keep the Sabbath as something sacred to you. Anyone doing work shall be cut off spiritually from his people, and therefore, anyone violating it shall be put to death."
Sabbath elevators are more likely to be found in Israel and larger Jewish communities in high buildings. And if a lift has a notice that said on the Sabbath it will stop at each and every floor, would it make you (being a non-Jew) take the stairs or just put up with the slow ascension?
Although these 39 activities are forbidden, in the event something life-threatening I understand that one is required to do whatever is necesary to prevent it as this is would not be about 'creation' or 'control over ones environment', but preservation of life.
Some observe, some don't.
The consequences: "Keep the Sabbath as something sacred to you. Anyone doing work shall be cut off spiritually from his people, and therefore, anyone violating it shall be put to death."
Sabbath elevators are more likely to be found in Israel and larger Jewish communities in high buildings. And if a lift has a notice that said on the Sabbath it will stop at each and every floor, would it make you (being a non-Jew) take the stairs or just put up with the slow ascension?
Although these 39 activities are forbidden, in the event something life-threatening I understand that one is required to do whatever is necesary to prevent it as this is would not be about 'creation' or 'control over ones environment', but preservation of life.
Well it really only concerns those who adhere to the strictest rules of Sabbath which are set by the poskim.
Electricity � according to the Orthodox legal devisors - falls into the Melacha of �lighting a fire� which is one of the forbidden activities.
Of course there are those who might be somewhat confused as to what is permissible and not permissible on Shabbat and Biblical holiday and categorising certain areas of technology has become confusing.
Another school of thought holds that while electricity can be used for light, it is but a minor use of electricity. Electricity is used to heat and to cool, to power engines and to power utensils, all of which are activated by a switch. The activation of a switch completes a circuit which allows the electricity to flow and therefore falls into the category of "the final hammer blow" or, completing something (the circuit) on Shabbat that was incomplete prior to Shabbat.
Electricity � according to the Orthodox legal devisors - falls into the Melacha of �lighting a fire� which is one of the forbidden activities.
Of course there are those who might be somewhat confused as to what is permissible and not permissible on Shabbat and Biblical holiday and categorising certain areas of technology has become confusing.
Another school of thought holds that while electricity can be used for light, it is but a minor use of electricity. Electricity is used to heat and to cool, to power engines and to power utensils, all of which are activated by a switch. The activation of a switch completes a circuit which allows the electricity to flow and therefore falls into the category of "the final hammer blow" or, completing something (the circuit) on Shabbat that was incomplete prior to Shabbat.
I was merely only answering the original question until you added your half-penny worth. I just recall seeing that opinion several times before, often, on several other threads, even ones that weren't about individual religious observances.
Did my post imply that I deny you your opinion?
How facetious of me.
Did my post imply that I deny you your opinion?
How facetious of me.
Llamatron, not at all. But it kinda gets a bit �samey� when the line is used in several threads. Wizard can opine in anyway they see fit if they feel it is an erudite contribution to the Answerbank Question, I was just giving an opinion too.
One can learn a lot from understanding other people�s religious observances whether we agre with them or not, but any fool can say its all crap. I just thought that providing an educated answer to your question was the way forward but perhaps it is I who has missed the purpose of your inquisitive mind. If you didn�t want to understand the reasoning behind Sabbath elevators and the somewhat strict Orthodox rules governing the Sabbath, then why-ever did you ask?
�.Where all the Christians have gone�..
I feel a song coming on.
One can learn a lot from understanding other people�s religious observances whether we agre with them or not, but any fool can say its all crap. I just thought that providing an educated answer to your question was the way forward but perhaps it is I who has missed the purpose of your inquisitive mind. If you didn�t want to understand the reasoning behind Sabbath elevators and the somewhat strict Orthodox rules governing the Sabbath, then why-ever did you ask?
�.Where all the Christians have gone�..
I feel a song coming on.
Well it might, but then as I appear to be the anathema of R&S - being the only Christian prepared to speak up an�all - I might get booed off by the mini-cult of the AB R&S Matriarchal High Priestess, Naomi24 and her faithful minions.
Is the sanctity of my wraithlike happiness really worth the risk? I shall await your guidance before my opening stanza.
Is the sanctity of my wraithlike happiness really worth the risk? I shall await your guidance before my opening stanza.
