bernie, I know very little about the quality of the Greek League, suffice to say, it's nowhere near the strength of our top flight. However, Olympiakos can only beat what's put in front of them (something they seem to manage with great regularity). Confidence plays a huge part in football, and Man Utd seem very, very short of it at the moment. I know the bookies rarely get it wrong, but they won't be getting a penny of my money at evens.