Andy Murray Retiring

[-SharonA-]

Sad news from Andy, he is retiring as he is in great pain. It will now be up to Kyle Edmund to fill the breach.
https://news.sky.com/story/andy-murray-planning-to-retire-from-tennis-11604160

[jim360]

The atmosphere must have been utterly electric. I've never heard Centre Court so loud, or so tense. What it must have been like...

[Butterbun]

Very strange that, choux. Most people will remember him for winning Wimbledon after a 77 year wait for a British Champion, his 2 Olympic Gold medals and the Davis cup win.

[choux]

It was pretty loud in 1977 when Virginia Wade won. Betty Stove said her ears hurt.

[ChillDoubt]

Should have retired when he realized his injuries were so severe....
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To be fair that’s easy to say with hindsight but given that he’s a true sportsman with a never-say-die attitude up to this point it’s difficult.
He’s a professional, he wouldn’t just throw in the towel on a whim and the realisation that it’s over for him has obviously taken its toll.
Always been a fan, I wish him well for the future.

[-SharonA-]

Lucky you cloverjo! That is one game I wished I was there.
Most years I applied for tickets to no avail. I have been 3 times to Wimbledon and several times to the O2.

[ChillDoubt]

I will remember him for the 4 't's' :

tears, temper, tantrums, tonsils ;)
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I’ll remember him for tenacity, training and talent, but most of all his tennis.

[choux]

I want sports icons to display sportsmanship.

[ChillDoubt]

Not sure what you’re getting at choux, other than sour grapes?
I don’t recall much ‘unsportsmanlike’ behaviour from him, certainly no more than any of his peers.
He’s certainly respected within tennis and highly revered by his female colleagues for his stance over them.
Plus, given that you yourself have given him the icon status I don’t really get your stance, but hey-ho.

[choux]

No way do I think of Murray as an icon, but tamborine did at 14:34 so you can disassociate me from that insult.

[Celtigra3]

No doubt if he was English choux would have been full of sympathy.

[New Judge]

//Have you seen how much they get paid even when losing in the first round??//

Last year's first round losers got £39,000. "Walking about money" for a recently retired top tennis player, I imagine.

[Neveracrossword]

Choux, it's a shame you feel that way about a player who has brought to much to the game and to Scotland and Britain. I feel Andy has earned every bit of the praise he's receiving today- much of it from respected tennis players, coaches etc.

[ChillDoubt]

I was right then choux, just the sour grapes, inexplicably.

[choux]

I am not sure why you can't get the point I am trying to make. I don't care what nationality a sports person is. But I expect of them sporting behaviour - sportsmanship. I can think of no better examples than Roger Federer, Bjorn Borg and Arthur Ashe (who all won the Championship without any histrionics) but my point includes all sports.

Too much money is paid to them, one way or another, in some cases an obscene amount and it brings out the prima donnas. Again, I can think of no better example of a sports person using his money to benefit others than Gary Player with his Foundation work. A golfer who won 3 Opens in different decades - quite incredible.

Life after retirement from sport? I agree with ladybirder and douglas. Murray's voice does not suit commentating, unlike Richie Benaud, the 'voice of cricket'. I suppose Murray could open a tennis school somewhere in warmer climes but he makes it soundsas though that won't help him with the pain he has even putting on shoes.

Still, there is life after sport. Dick Francis, National Hunt Champion Jockey - who can forget Devon Loch - became a journalist and novelist. That kept the wolf from his door very nicely thank you! Jody Scheckter, former Formula One World Champion, retired to turn his interest in organic farming into a thriving business.

Oh how I rue the Open Era of tennis. I don't believe Jan Kodes would have reigned at Wimbledon otherwise (the man who said "grass is for cows"). Still, that is what passes for progress I guess.

Let me reiterate for Butterbun that we have not waited 77 years for another British Champion. Look up Dorothy Round, Angela Mortimer, Ann Jones and Virginia Wade. Hard to believe but Mortimer beat another English finalist - Christine Truman in 1961. I remember clearly that Christine had a heavy fall on court and was dragging a leg for the rest of the match.

At least Murray is able to announce his retirement, albeit unto injury, unlike Michael Schumacher.

I am entitled to my opinion of Murray's behaviour on court. I don't expect anyone to agree with me but sour grapes it is not lol.

[Neveracrossword]

Choux, yes, it's a pity that Butterbun missed the vital 'male' word in his reference to the 70-odd year wait for a Wimbledon champion. Still, at least Andy M always gets that right. He is the most vocal of all male players when it comes to championing women's rights, equal pay and so on. PS You'll be relieved to hear that AM's been quoted as saying he didn't particularly enjoy commentating - even though his stint was very well received.

[jim360]

British tennis is going to be far worse off without Andy Murray. To see him stay around would have been worth a few temper tantrums on court.

[andy-hughes]

I am sorry that he has to retire prematurely - perhaps he will be able to smile a little now?

[Butterbun]

I hadn't forgot the ladies who were champions, there have been more of them than the men and yes, I should have said 'male' champion but
that has been corrected now by Neveracrossword. Roger Federer has cried on more than one occasion too, far worse than AM did and as for tantrums, John McEnroe, Ilie Nastase springs to mind, and yes, some ladies too.

[ChillDoubt]

At least Murray is able to announce his retirement, albeit unto injury, unlike Michael Schumacher.
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Yeah, because it’s not like unsportsmanlike conduct and controversy overshadowed his career, is it??
Sad though his current medical state is I don’t see why that has to be used as an analogy about Murray having to retire.
Murray may have had the odd outburst but nothing to write home about and nothing that wasn’t in comparison to his peers.
That said, though he’s often downplayed it I’d give anyone who was in Dunblane school on that horrific day a little leeway, who knows what demons they may have battled since.

[jno]

Schumacher announces his retirement



(not for the first time)