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I have spoken to sky, it appears that the menus are in different places dependant on your mobile device, i notice the screen shot from Bobbi was an I pad, the chap from sky had a Samsung phone (as have I)and told me that I get the weekly programmes from each particular channel, so if I click on channel 4 EG then I get the today dropdown list and the rest of the week is there, it appears that I cannot access all programmes on one page but just the individual channels. that will do for me, thanks for all help and suggestions