exstending your stay

[NAPOLETANA]

my boyfriend came to visit me in the u.s. and he made his ticket for only 1 month. he has no visa but wants to exstend his stay for another 2 months, how can he do this?

[bednobs]

is your b/f from the uk? did he come on the visa waiver?
As far as i'm aware, the visa waiver lasts for 1 year, so all you would need to do is change the ticket for hs flight back

[NAPOLETANA]

no, my boyfriend is from italy. he only came here on vacation and made his ticket for one month. he did not need a visa or waiver for his stay. now i want him to stay longer because if he goes back our relationship will suffer grately if not end completely. how long can someone stay in america without a visa/waiver?

[bednobs]

he must have either had a visa, or come in on the visa waiver programme (a green bit of card you fill out on the plane before you land). American immigration do not just "forget" to make people do either of the above. if he did visa waiver, as seems most likely, he can stay up to 90 days from date of entry (look at his passport as they usually staple a bit of card in if he did visa waiver), and will just need t change his return ticket to go back within that time

[NAPOLETANA]

yes ok, i think it might be what you said...he can stay up to 90 days from the time he entered teh country. would you happen to know if he can apply for a visa while still in the usa???
thank you so much

[bednobs]

he won't need a visa - if you want hom to stay 2 months then it would probably just come within the 90 days. If he wants a visa to stay indefinately it is very hard to get one, unless you were to get married

[NAPOLETANA]

yes i want him to stay permenently although i know it is difficult, almost impossible. for now i was hoping he could stay 2 more months while applying for some kind of visa, maybe tourist, without having to go back to italy. i also thought if we got married it would solve a lot, but i spoke to an immigration lawyer and he said my b/f would still have to return and get called back.

[redcrx]

yes he would have to return to italy and apply for visa.

My brother (british) is married to an american and his Visa has taken over a year to process so far. In fact its taken so long that the medical and police reports are now out of dte and have to be done again.

[NAPOLETANA]

i spoke to immigration and they told me that if we get married we would onlky have to wait 6-9 months before he will be called over and stay permenently. yesterday i recieved information from a freiend that said in january 2009 italian citizen will be able to stay in this country for up to 2 years without any visa. is this true???

[bednobs]

if you have an immigration lawyer then ask them about the 2009 thing rather than relying on a website is my advice to you.

in my opinion, it would be unlikely that the usa government would make such a change because if anything, they get more paranoid rather than less.

Just a thought but if you are thinking your relationship will end when he goes back to italy, is he really the person you want to marry?

[NAPOLETANA]

no i don't have an immigration lawyer. i did however call an immigration service for information. and yes i think i will ask them about the info of 2009. i think there was talk about 2009 depending on the election.

yes there are many more problem involving my relationship but i am only fighting so hard because he is the man i want to marry

[bednobs]

btw, if your b/f just stayed longer than the visa, or visa waiver allowed him to, probably nothing much would happen. the authorities are unlikely to come knocking on your door to deport him. However he would not be able to work, get government aid and healthcare could be a problem.
My sister went to the usa 14 years ago on a visa waiver. She met and married her husband and had a baby over the space of about 8 years, all the while working "off the books" because she obviously didn't have permission to be there/social security number.
She then applied for a visa through an immigration specialist attourney over there but it took about 2 years to sort out. All of this time she could have been deported and excluded permanently because she was there illegally, and her husband and child been in the usa while she was forced to remain in the uk. it worked out ok for her but they may have changed things since then, and i could so easily not have worked out ok

[NAPOLETANA]

yes i understand that however my b/f said he would never want to take that chance. we just need to get more information on this and start applying for anything and everything that is nessessary. our plan is to have him go back to italy now and get info there too and then when he comes back in 3 months get married. the problem is is that after we get married he will still have tpo return to his country for 6-9 months.

[redcrx]

immigration told my brother and sister in law it wouldnt take long too.

As i said over a year later and he still hasnt got his visa, his wife is in the US alone until its finalised. And there is no reason for the delay all medicals and police checks are clear.

[NAPOLETANA]

i was afraid of that. it used to be that when you marry a us citizen you leave the counrty for a few days and then you are all set. too bad it doesn't work like that any more.

the immigration people told me that it is not a visa he will recieve after marrage. it is call a petition and i will have to call him over.

[bednobs]

tbh, i can't really see why you are asking here if you have got the information already straight from the horses mouth - the immigration dept. I would seriously doubt that anyone here could tell you more than the immigration dept in your own country

[NAPOLETANA]

the only thing i talked to the immigration dept about is the possiblities of marrage. thats why i came here to find other information.

[bednobs]

and although you havent asked for relationship advice, i just think of the old adage "marry in haste, repent at leisure"
if you feel that if he had to go back to ital for 6-9 months it would end your relationship, why get married in the first place?

Alternatively, why dont you move to italy to be with him? either permanently if that is possible, or after you get married and while you wait for his visa. I have no idea about italian laws re you staying there if you are married to him, but they cant be more draconian than us laws surely?

[NAPOLETANA]

no, i didn't say it would end our relationship if he went back after marrage for 9 months. i am totaly okay with that. we are both very young and we don't have much money at all so when we get married he will live here with me and my mother. i have a dual citizenship because my parents are italian and i can live in italy if i wanted how ever, like i said, we have no money and his parents are against our relationship. so the only way is to get married and wait until the u.s. calls him to come back.

[bednobs]

again, poking my nose in here, but if you are very young, it might be a good thing you can't sort all ths out at the moment. the things one wants as a teenager are not always the same things one wants as a person in their 20's etc. once you are married, that is it, it's not a decision that is easily reversed without a lot of heartache and financial loss. perhaps give the relationship some time and see how it develops before deciding to get married. Applying for a petition/visa costs moneymoney, so if you dont have much this might not be the ideal solution either. i know its easy for older people like myself to say "give it time" but the reason people tell you this is because they are giving you the benefit of their experience.
in my opinion, starting off a married life by living with your mum and dad is not an ideal start. it might be better for both of you to work and getsome money so you have your own place - perhaps you could work in italy?

You are making t sound like your relationship wont survive a split in location for the both of you? being married rather than bf/gf wont prevent a relationship falling apart, "grately suffering" (sic) or ending, it will just make it more expensive and messy if it does

[bednobs]

also, meant to add, does your b/f even want to get married?
the way you word your posts makes it seem like the getting married idea is all coming from you, and he dosent have much choice. again from the ay youve worded your posts it seems like you have 2 options: marry or split up. But thats not the case, you could have a long distance relationship