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There have been many surveys and they all say that the age over 98% of people start to smoke is 12 to 18. Stop them starting and within 20 to 30 years there will be no smokers as they will have been killed by their habit!
11:18 Wed 04th May 2016
A question was asked. Can't we just reply to it, rather than bashing the author ?
All it shows is that they don't make wrong decisions all the time. There is no need for the EU to make the decisions for countries though; countries are perfectly capable of doing the right thing if they wish.
Where was the question asked.? If there is one to be answered ,other than an opinion,I am sure it would be answered
O-G
That is the reason for Brexit. Countries do not want decisions dictated to them all the time!
The merits of staying in the EU can be written on the back of a fag packet (including the warning that staying can seriously damage your health).
In the meantime, everyone wanting to take the opportunity to have a go at the EU is casually overlooking the fact that the major tobacco companies who tried to bring this case have done so out of major financial greed with no regard for people's health. More to the point, they have had so much money to throw at this litigation that they have been able to drag things out from one country to another, sometimes even threatening countries whose budgets are smaller than the tobacco companies in question.

This is actually a powerful reason to support EU membership, or at least the principle of countries acting together; divided, British American Tobacco has been able to take on small countries one-by-one with powerful, expensive lawsuits against this type of legislation. United, the EU can rightly tell them to *** off.

Oh, and while I'm at it, if tobacco companies are so busy objecting to this it's probably because plain packaging *does* have an impact on their profits and sales -- because, sad to say, people are shallow and attracted to shiny things. Plain packaging will never stop smoking altogether, of course, but it does go some way towards reducing the uptake of new customers. The level of impact isn't clear yet because the law has not been in effect long enough to tell, but initial indications appear promising. (The only studies I can find that disagree with this assessment, are, presumably entirely by coincidence, funded by BAT and Philip Morris International, ie tobacco companies).

If nothing else, though, plain packaging has been a great way of cutting tobacco companies down to size. It's stupid that an industry for such a harmful product remains so strong and influential -- and that, in some sense, people would rather support the multinational tobacco bullies ahead of international efforts to curb smoking.
"or at least the principle of countries acting together"
Every bit of news recently is being angled to support 'in' or 'out' of the EU.
This story and the one about trade deals and the USA are examples, neither has any baring on the EU referendum either way!
Trade deals certainly have. If in the EU you are committed to whatever it negotiates with the US. Outside the EU you run your own negotiations (if you feel you need a special deal that is).
Trade deals in general yes. But this was about the TTPI deal that the USA is trying to force on the EU and will force on the UK if we are no longer in the EU. We get it both ways!. TTPI is a terrible deal and should be opposed at all costs, in or out of the EU.
Jim
Do you not think the EU were a little greedy and exploited the UK with regard to tobacco sales.?
Who discontinued Duty Free in June 1999? The EU!
Which countries exacted lesser local tax on tobacco than UK? Most of mainland Europe!
Who lost out on local duty on Tobacco? The UK!
Who gained? The rest of mainland Europe!

As usual the UK was shafted by European law and the rest of Europe profited.

Brussels are only concerned about the health of their ill gained coffers and not that of people.

Just read the link how much duty the UK lost because of the EU.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/381860.stm
where as any anti smoking measure is welcome.I'd forgo almost anything for freedom from tyranny mikey. Can you not see we are ruled by an evil empire?
I forgot to add earlier. Duty Free cigarette allowance per traveller 200 carton of cigarettes per visit to and from Europe.
Allowance to Tax paid cigarettes in rest of Europe now? Pretty much as much as you can carry or fit in your vehicle. The EU are squids in .
200 fags for a person who can only afford a continental holiday once a year was not excessive in the scheme of things.
A car full per day trip to Adenkerke is every day of the week.!
It is unlikely that the USA would be able to force an independent UK to agree to TTIP. If the US doesn't want a fair trade deal, well we've traded perfectly ok with them and other countries without one in the past. If a country wishes to cut it's nose off to spite it's face then that's their loss.
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I didn't ask any questions...I merely put this issue up for discussion, but the personal attacks still happen....twas ever thus !
Mikey, never mind, take solace from lighting a Hamlet? :)
You lit up the AB airways, mikey
Brexit gives you cancer. mmmm.
^I knew there had to be one reason to vote 'In'. :o)

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