Any Watch/clock Experts Out There?

[Bert]

I have read that a Spanish man, Antonio Canseco (1838-1917) patented a watch (or clock) mechanism that worked without weights. The illustration I have seen shows a watch. Everything I have seen is in Spanish and I cannot read Spanish. And I cannot copy and paste it into Google Translate. In the Spanish text I have seen the name Roskopf, which is a make of watches, and I get the impression that the Canseco principle is a copy of the Roskopf.
Can anyone direct me to a site in English that would explain more about the Canseco patent, and its relationship top the Roskopf?

[Psybbo]

Stuey is, but he may be in his local in Canada at the minute

[BRIGHT SPARK]

Is this a windup.

[Buenchico]

If you're referring to this
http://i44.tinypic.com/vie62t.jpg
the reference to 'Roskopf' most definitely isn't an acknowledgement of using Roskopf's design because it describes Canseco watches as "son mejores que los Roskopf", which means "they are better than those of Roskopf".

I'm sorry that I can't track down details of the patent but Canseco was responsible for this cathedral clock. (I've linked to a Google translation of a Spanish blog page):
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcarillonwatchmaker.blogspot.co.uk%2F2014%2F02%2Flos-relojes-de-la-catedral-de-coria.html&;edit-text=&act=url

[Bert]

Many thanks, Buenchico. Yes, I think that illustration is the one that I saw. I was puzzled by the fact that I cannot imagine a watch that works with weights, though I suppose that once you have invented a clock mechanism that works without weights you could miniaturise it and you've got a watch.
I would have laughed at Bright Spark's remark if only he'd ended it with a question mark.

[stuey]

I can't find any information on Canseco pocket watches anywhere, even on the National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors. All old watch movements were powered by mainsprings anyway, not weights. Lots of clock movements were driven by weights, but not watches.

[stuey]

I looked up Georges Fredric Roskopf, and he was one of the pioneers in producing pocket watches which were wound by the stem and not a key. Again, I see nothing mentioned about weights. In your illustration of Canseco's watch, if he was was using the Roskopf principle, the stem at the 12 position would have wound the watch, while the button to the right of it would have been used to set the time.

[davidelahoz]

Antonio Canseco was a Spannish watchmaker who was famous because of his clocks, which were installed in many town halls and even in Jerusalem. He invented a mechanism that worked without weights for them so they could be more precise.
His pocket watches were well known because of their quality and people even said that they were better than Roskofs.
Sadly my family sold everything after his death. That's why it's difficult to find any piece of information about him.