Will You Vote For Jean-Claude Juncker's Version Of Democracy?

[naomi24]

The unelected President of the European Commission has decided that ALL populist right-wing parties across Europe will be barred from all decision-making in the EU, and in so doing has, says Ron Liddle, provided the electorate with the most important reason to vote Leave next month.

//If the people of any European country elect a right-wing populist government, that country will face sanctions and possibly lose all of its voting rights. The Commission has just awarded itself the powers to do this. The sort of behaviour we used to see in the old Soviet Union. //

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/suncolumnists/7175028/Rod-Liddle-Stick-two-fingers-up-to-EU-president-Junker-who-thinks-democracy-shouldnt-be-left-to-the-people.html

And if that doesn’t convince you, some more gems from Mr Juncker.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10967168/Jean-Claude-Junckers-most-outrageous-political-quotations.html

What are you 'Remainers' really voting for? This man is treating you as fools and he's telling you, quite clearly, that you're fools. The ‘Daily Fright Bites’ from your representatives pale into insignificance.

[Khandro]

A good article by Fraser Nelson in the Telegraph here;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/europes-voters-are-getting-angry-leaders-should-listen-to-them-i/

[Gromit]

All lies:
// has vowed to block all right wing populists from power across the continent //

No he hasn't. The UK has a right wing populist government and they are not trying to block the Tories. They are blocking any Government left or right that noble their own judicary. An independent judicary is a core principle of membership.

// shortly after acquiring the power //
If March 2014 is a shorttime ago.

[mushroom25]

//that noble their own judicary//

not sure what you're getting at there. are judicial types not permitted to be lords?

[THECORBYLOON]

If a newly elected government introduced legislation descriminating against a large section of its citizens or removing their right to vote for example, are folk saying the EU should not impose sanctions because that government had been voted in?

[Svejk]

'Populist' they sneer. Better known as Democratic to normal people.

[THECORBYLOON]

If a government uses its huge majority to force through legislation which the majority of the nation disagrees with, say elections only every twenty-five years for example, is that democracy in action?

[Svejk]

IF ifs an ans were pots an pans. Lot of whataboutery there, corby.

[THECORBYLOON]

Not every government elected by a popular vote has gone on to do things any right-thinking folk would agree with.

[naomi24]

^That also applies to these people who are not elected by any vote – popular or not - but are nevertheless governing.

[New Judge]

“The UK has a right wing populist government…”

When was such a government elected? I obviously missed it - must’ve been washing me ’air that day.

“If a newly elected government introduced legislation descriminating against a large section of its citizens or removing their right to vote for example, are folk saying the EU should not impose sanctions because that government had been voted in?”

I certainly am. The EU (or any other body) should not have any control whatsoever over a UK government. It is not for them to decide whether actions taken by the UK government meet with their approval.

“If a government uses its huge majority to force through legislation which the majority of the nation disagrees with, say elections only every twenty-five years for example, is that democracy in action?”

Study your UK (unwritten) constitution, Corby. Such a bill needs Royal assent and the Monarch would be most unlikely to give such approval. The UK has not need of protection from its Executive from outside – it has perfectly good controls of its own. Frankly I’d prefer to trust the (two) Houses of Parliament and the Monarch rather than any unelected Euromaniac. To suggest the UK needs such protection is offensive.

[Togo]

Altiero Spinelli (1907-1986) was a former Italian Communist who was imprisoned on Ventotene island off the west coast of Italy for 12 years, following which he was interned for six more years. With Ernesto Rossi he wrote the Ventotene Manifesto setting out a plan for a federal Europe controlled by a supra-national government. (Shades of Mein Kampf?). He was a committed relentless advocate of a federal Europe super-state and was able to climb rapidly through Europe's organisational system by covertly driving strategic elements of the EU project to where it is today. He is revered by the Brussels Eurocrats as the founding father of the EU following his introduction of the Spinelli Plan in 1984. The largest of the Eu "Parliament" buildings in Brussels is named in his honour. (The oldest being named after Paul- Henri Spaak.) Any who doubt that the EU is not a dictatorship with any democratic intentions whatsoever should ponder these few words from his Ventotene Manifesto. "The problem which must first be solved is the final abolition of the division of Europe into sovereign nation states. Without this, any progress will be appearance only". Scary or not? Very clear though isn't it. This was the intention from day 1, to eradicate sovereign nations and with them every vestige of national identity, in what they called the project. They being 3 people, Jean Monnet, Arthur Salter and our old friend Paul Henri Spaak (oldest EU parliament building).This aim to abolish nationhood has been regarded as sacrosanct by successive unelected and unaccountable EU commissioners for decades and continues to be so. Now consider this, the latest "leak" from the corridors of power in the EUSSR stresses that the next big thing is to have an army of the EUSSR. Any ex sovereign state will find themselves threatened by a massive European continental army, if they stray from the official message or designated direction. Sound Familiar?? Oh and for good measure Turkey is being shoehorned in. Perhaps in the future, with EUSSR backing and encouragement, the Turks could invade what was once Britain with the full backing of the new unelected Soviet EU regime. Go ask the Baltic states what it was like in the Russian Soviet bloc. Which country enriched themselves during 2 World Wars? Which country is encouraging us to vote in?

[Svejk]

An EU Army? Lol, you must be one of Clogg's fantasists.

[Togo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3612257/Plans-EU-army-kept-SECRET-British-voters-day-referendum.html