A Stirring Question To The Brexiters?

[DTCwordfan]

And if the Stay-Ins want to add, please do.

A simplistic perspective perhaps - (i) what is stopping the UK or any member state walking out of the EU at any point if they (their population) doesn't 'like' what's on the books at any time in the future.

(ii) depending on the answer to the above - why not vote to stay in, implement change from within as a major EU player and if, say by 2020 or 25 Brussels et al are not responding to the changes within (for me, some of the economic, regulation and justice issues - as immigration is there whether we like it or not), then we pull two fingers to them.......

[david small]

We have tried again and again from within. We keep getting vetoed.

[DTCwordfan]

we pay only 0.6% gross of our GDP, the others 1-1.5% (before rebates and the rest), so not all gloom and doom, a Thatch legacy.....why not fire the shot across the boom and lay it down clear....a provisional yes BUT......

[david small]

A shot across the BOW. Would antagonise, but be futile. The majority, led by a minority will rule. We except or abandon.

[jourdain2]

i)Cowardly politicians ii) cowardly politicians will not represent the people and use the requisite two fingers.

[Togo]

//what is stopping the UK or any member state walking out of the EU at any point if they (their population) doesn't 'like' what's on the books at any time in the future.//

The corrupt politicians who are making an easy living off the backs of the "population". I declare myself out of the EUSSR, now every body else do the same and we are OUT.
Have you ever heard such? Vote in to get out. Hahaha. Desperation in a nutshell.

[Old_Geezer]

A country can't just leave unless it feels its reputation and good relationships with other trading nations has no value. Nothing significant changes for the better if we remain. DC's deal proves as much. Vote to remain and you've trapped generations into the undemocratic overlord.

[sevenOP]

(i) economic, legal, political and other consequences.

Old_Geezer, do you view 'democracy' as the choice between Party manifestos that the majority of voters have had zero input in ?

[Paul22118]

I think a good analogy would be this.
I wish to build a house and own all the trumps. We therefore build MY house but it does not suit all.
So I take a partner and we decide what house to build over a pint. Result not bad.
We then take a third partner and the resulting house is just about as good as can be.
Twenty years later we decide to build a big house but now there are 27 of us. The result is that we end up with a large, unfinished property that actually suits none of us and the bickering and meddling goes on and on and on.
QED

[andy-hughes]

DTC - //why not vote to stay in, implement change from within as a major EU player ... //

Because we are not a major EU player!

This has been evidenced time and again as the major EU powers ride rough-shod over the UK - none more so than when Call-Me-Dave went over to demand all sorts of concessions as a condition of staying in the EU - got virtually none of them, and is still advocating that we remain.

[DTCwordfan]

Because we send lightweight politicians into the EU - and we need to be sending heavyweights as others like the Dutch do.....

[Baldric]

///why not vote to stay in, implement change from within as a major EU player///

Since when is that ever likely to happen, it's like a line written by one of the Brothers Grimm.
We've never been seen as a major EU player, now we have a once in a lifetime chance to get our Country back, we need to take it.

[DTCwordfan]

Odds at the moment are all around the 3-1 On for the Ins......has lengthened a little. For Leaving 5-2.....