Peterborough, Its A Nightmare Now....

[trt]

....says a few friends of mine, as I don't live too far away.

One of them with a wife and 2 children cant even sell their house, because of the problems below.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/peterborough-brexit-migrants-last-english-100529381.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb

[mushroom25]

//Nor have I seen any reports of Spanish barmen moaning on about how all the lovely Spanish Bars are closing and reverting to burger and chips joints selling Watneys Red Barrel ! //

watney's red barrel hasn't been brewed since 1971 (when it was rebadged "Red"), and watneys themselves became defunct in 1979. so I cannot begin to imagine where all these moaning spanish burger and chip joint owners are buying their supplies........

[mikey4444]

er...thanks Mush !

[mikey4444]

While we are on the subject ......

http://beerbrewer.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/hall-of-shame-watneys-starlight.html

[Zacs-Master]

Ha! Thanks for the Monty P link Mikey. Whenever anyone mentions Torremelinos I always start singing 'Torre, Torreme leeee nos' and didn't know where I'd picked it up from. But now I do. :-)

[Jackdaw33]

Watney's is by no means unique. Double Diamond and McEwan's Tartan were right alongside it.

[Old_Geezer]

Pub issues need a thread to itself. Change of social attitudes such as not being allowed that 5th pint if you drive, there have been issues regarding law changes, supermarkets being allowed to sell alcohol. Umpteen reasons.

It is possible the problem may be worse where a larger immigrant population, that don't have nights at the pub culture, have become dominant.

A younger generation more inclined to go to the city for trendy bars, and avoid traditional pubs to socialise, doesn't help. Especially if they can go on to clubs.

It has meant, for a long time, that there is insufficient custom to keep places going and they are worth more as land value than pub. I don't think we are as socially aware as we used to be. You might know your neighbour but are unlikely to know dozens of folk in the neighbourhood you chose to meet up with at the local watering hole.

Those that survive often do so on the food service, many of which simply buy in ready made. Lucky you if you find one with a good resident cook. And many are so food oriented you feel you are intruding if you wander in for a quiet pint, like none of the tables are really for you as they all have menus and condiments and possibly cutlery. Doesn't encourage regular visits.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// So....perhaps all those 10,000's of white British people don't go to Pubs often enough any more ? ///

Why have you brought colour into the debate, could it be that you are not white?

[Zacs-Master]

He brought colour into the debate because the 2011 census found that Peterborough still has an overwhelmingly white, British population....84.4%.

[ummmm]

OG - pubs are thriving round here. 5 mins walk from me is the main road into town and has numerous pubs and they're opening up more!!

[Old_Geezer]

You are lucky. Maybe because the main road to town is nearby. By me there is a few so-so to adequate pubs, and I need to drive out to the country (or into the old town) for anything better. Much the same near where my woman lives except there it starts off dire until you drive out somewhere. The only one within walking distance I do go, more often than not only has one pump beer on at a time. I think it's called Choice from the Hobson brewery.

[Baldric]

Peterborough's population growth was reportedly the second fastest of any British city over the ten years from 2004 to 2013, driven partly by immigration. wiki

[Togo]

If proof were not readily available mikey's post @9:06 must prove beyond doubt that he is indeed trapped somewhere back in the early 1970s. Everybody get back on the coach and "back to the future" driver.