A Mother Couldn't Get Any Worse Than This.....

[trt]

could they?

If she wasn't born here, she should be deported!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3718085/Mother-36-filmed-pornography-movies-14-year-old-son-daughter-three-sent-clips-relatives-Pakistan-jailed-five-years.html

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

Speaking for Olivio now are we Andy, how can I not keep addressing your points if you take on other poster's position?

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Argue and disagree by all means - as we have, and do, but let's dial down the random scenarios shall we - they are not helping you or I, or the debate. ///

Don't try to speak for me as well Andy, I assure you that they are certainly helping me in my quest to oppose your somewhat strange views, but if you only wish to debate on your terms then I am not prepared to do that, so I will now withdraw because it seems you are not going to alter your views on standard debating practices.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - andy-hughes

Speaking for Olivio now are we Andy, how can I not keep addressing your points if you take on other poster's position? //

I speak for myself - I always have, I always will. You know that perfectly well - why do you persist in these derailing questions?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //Don't try to speak for me as well Andy, I assure you that they are certainly helping me in my quest to oppose your somewhat strange views, but if you only wish to debate on your terms then I am not prepared to do that, so I will now withdraw because it seems you are not going to alter your views on standard debating practices. //

I am not speaking for anyone - including you AOG.

Withdraw if you wish - but don't try and place that responsibility on me - it is yours and yours alone.

[RandyMarsh]

I agree with the first sentence of the first answer. It is easy to take a mature balanced western view of the situation.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// I am not speaking for anyone - including you AOG. ///

I said yesterday that I would withdraw, but I couldn't let you get away with this untruth.

Below is the reply I gave specifically to Olivio, which you chose to answer, thus in the true sense you 'were' speaking for Olivio.

Olivio

/// Especially if one can level all the blame at a male rather than the 'weaker sex'. ///

/// And why not add the addition tag on him that he might have been a paedophile, that should just about let her off the hook. ///

Also see below that you added 'you' so I presume you meant me.

/// they are not helping you or I, ///

Surely it should be left to me to state whether or not anything is helping me?

Hence my accusation that you were speaking both for me and Olivio.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - in the interests of keeping the thread on track, and not getting into a personal argument, I am sure you will understand that I am withdrawing from debating this particular aspect of the thread with you.

Thanks.

[joeluke]

Sentence so low because of:

(a) her gender
(b) her ethnicity

Sentence would have been far more severe if it was a white father who had had sex with his daughter

[woofgang]

I think its not a matter of civilisation or class. People who have been abused often become abusers, sometimes as in this case, acting at the behest of their own abusers.
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/179/6/482