Deluded Labour Voter's

[fender62]

how anyone could vote labour is beyond me, corbyn would bankrupt the uk, open the floodgates
for migrants, in an already over crowded island, he's pro hamas and ira, wants to ban the bomb.
money forrest corbyn belongs in the 70's when as they said the strike is solid... as for diane abbott words fail me, is it a protest vote and or happy migrants.

[ichkeria]

Did someone mention sour grapes :-)

I'm a Labour supporter who would not have touched Corbyn with a barge pole, but I'm the first to admit I completely misjudged his appeal. He was always going to be a great campaigner but he exceeded my wildest expectations. To quote Peter Mandelson "I didn't know he had it in him"
Like kromo, I don't like the Hamas and IRA connections but also like kromo these are potentially irrelevant: he did say, did he not, after the recent terrorist atrocities that he would give the police "whatever powers it takes...."
A lot of this stuff is posturing by a certain element of the left who never actually are faced with the realities of life. Nonetheless I think Corbyn WILL have to embrace the more moderate wing of his party, certainly befire he can get my support again. But he has indeed re-energised politics and helped enfranchise the young - not just the already politicallly committed. And that is a GOOD thing.

And yes, Labour did lose: but surely you can see why it feels like a victory every bit as much as May must be feeling like she lost.

[fiction-factory]

>Well at least the foxes will feel a little safer today, then they did a few weeks ago

There never was a chance of fox hunting coming back. All May said when asked was that supported the idea of a free vote in the commons on the issue if the issue came up. I don't think she was even proposing that a vote be held

[jim360]

Actually she *was* proposing that a vote be held, although I'm fairly sure that the Tory manifesto can largely be thrown in the bin now. The specific wording was that a vote would be brought before Parliament: "a government bill in government time", although a free vote would be allowed.

[fiction-factory]

I think it's also good that Corbyn has energised the young, although most are the affluent hipster types in the London suburbs, mainly graduates who like the idea of having their tuition fee loans written off and students who for some reason don't realise tuition fees are not a debt but a way of allowing universities to offer places to poorer students. When I was 18-22 I was alsoa radical- a big supporter of Tony Benn and Michael Foot and would have loved Corbyn- but views change as you start to realise that the real world works in a different way, Most of these young Corbyn supporters will be Tories in 10 years' time when they have careers and families (well at least those in the private sector).
I do think Corby performed much better than May in this election though

[fiction-factory]

It looked to me as if that manifesto was written by the two advisers (who have now resigned)- I am not sure the cabinet was even involved in drawing it up. Bizarre

[hereIam]

Corbyn did not lose 'big time', he did a LOT better than expected and cut her majority alarmingly which is why I voted for him. Now she can't get all her own way all the time and that is what I wanted. How much longer will she remain anyway ???

[albaqwerty]

The younger albas voted labour. Previously they have always voted SNP - as did Mr Alba.
I voted Green.

Don't think May will last for 6 months

[saintpeter48]

I would trust Corbyn much more than weak and wobbly May, she is the one who cut police numbers and now we are paying for it!
How can you say that Labour lost, from the position that they were in when 'wheat field running' May called the election to Fridays result, it was an outstanding performance!
May will be gone within weeks and good riddance to her!

[ichkeria]

This is an election where Labour lost Mansfield, yet gained Canterbury, which I don't think had ever been anything other than Tory.
The Tories also took a seat in Stoke.
Labour won Kensington.
The Lib Dems overturned a huge Tory majority in Oxford and yet made no real impression on most of the south west.
The Tories now can talk about their "Scottish heartlands"
So it'll be a brave person who wants to predict what will happen in the next election ...

[jim360]

Guess it will depend on the build-up, no? This election saw the Tories lose ground probably in part because it was seen as opportunism -- so I suspect that even a competent campaign would have seen them somewhat hampered.

If the next election happens because the Tories are in disarray then how can anyone vote for them as a government? it would make no sense to return a dysfunctional party to power. If it happens more naturally then who knows?

[Celtigra3]

Oh dear and here was me thinking that it was a free vote. Last I looked it was not yet a police state and people were entitled to vote as they wanted. Oh and before anyone criticises (which in a free society you can) I am neither a labour or tory voter

[dannyk13]

A lot will depend on how the Tories are judged on their performance running up to the next election whenever that may be.

[Celtigra3]

Next election - sooner rather than later methinks. The long knives are already out for May

[jason.p]

So anyone who has a different view to your self is "deluded".
How utterly arrogant and childish!! I bet you preach the values of free speech and your precious Tory values. What a joke!!