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The Uk’S Housing Crisis
Should we start building up again?
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All around me they’re tearing down 60’s high risers and replacing them with small modern mini housing estates, should we start building up again? Not in the same 60’s style but maybe mega high risers a mile high like a pyramid with built in shopping malls,l Ext? Essentials mini cities?
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All around me they’re tearing down 60’s high risers and replacing them with small modern mini housing estates, should we start building up again? Not in the same 60’s style but maybe mega high risers a mile high like a pyramid with built in shopping malls,l Ext? Essentials mini cities?
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“Apologies, you said net migration but your 3 million figure is way out:
I make it less than a million over three years.”
In fact over three years the figure is 332k + 248k + 246k which equals 826k or 275k per annum. But I was considering a period of 10 years for which MigrationWatch’s figures amount to 2.444m. So yes, I exaggerated a little (because I was simply gaining a view from their chart and not noting the individual numbers properly, but no excuse). In any event to have to accommodate a quarter of a million new arrivals each year (regardless of where they come from or how long they stay) over and above any growth resulting from those already here is bound to cause problems.
The UK does not have a housing crisis; it has a population crisis and it truly is "the elephant in the room" because nobody will admit it. It is simply unsustainable (and very undesirable) to have population growth which requires hundreds of thousands of new homes to be constructed year in year out.
I make it less than a million over three years.”
In fact over three years the figure is 332k + 248k + 246k which equals 826k or 275k per annum. But I was considering a period of 10 years for which MigrationWatch’s figures amount to 2.444m. So yes, I exaggerated a little (because I was simply gaining a view from their chart and not noting the individual numbers properly, but no excuse). In any event to have to accommodate a quarter of a million new arrivals each year (regardless of where they come from or how long they stay) over and above any growth resulting from those already here is bound to cause problems.
The UK does not have a housing crisis; it has a population crisis and it truly is "the elephant in the room" because nobody will admit it. It is simply unsustainable (and very undesirable) to have population growth which requires hundreds of thousands of new homes to be constructed year in year out.
if only someone had the cojones in government to admit that many properties stand empty because the Landlords like it that way. If many properties were taken up then no more building in London would be needed. and we should be addressing the immigration elephant in the room question more seriously, and not just telling the immigrants to feck off.
"it has a population crisis", indeed it does and I would go further than that ans say the World has a population crisis.
In addition to that what is also overlooked is that it is not just housing it is the whole infrastructure under strain; Hospitals, Doctors, Schools, Roads, Police, Fire etc.
No Country can take unfettered migration, it does not make sense to anyone except the extreme left(who are vote chasing anyway).
In addition to that what is also overlooked is that it is not just housing it is the whole infrastructure under strain; Hospitals, Doctors, Schools, Roads, Police, Fire etc.
No Country can take unfettered migration, it does not make sense to anyone except the extreme left(who are vote chasing anyway).
There is the myth ^^ All those houses were knocked down you know, or left empty after they were purchased by the formerly caged council "tenants". They were immediately rendered uninhabitable the minute they were purchased and continue to be so. (In actual fact the ones that were purchased are the only ones on an estate of council properties that look clean and tidy and properly maintained.)
The amount of land currently "banked" and traded by major construction firms is more than enough to solve the housing crisis. Instead it is being used for speculation specifically in order to keep prices high. This is one of the many reasons why this is not a problem that the market can solve on its own.
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(yes I know it's the Guardian - nobody else reports on this issue, alas, so I have to make do).
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(yes I know it's the Guardian - nobody else reports on this issue, alas, so I have to make do).
“NJ....Britain has had a dearth of affordable housing for many years, mostly caused by the selling off of Council housing stocks and then not letting the Councils use the money raised to build replacements.”
Quite so, Mikey, and I explained in an earlier answer why I believe this should be. The country needs to move away from a model that provides huge subsidies for housing and that was the idea of selling off council homes.
“The idea that this is all fundamentally caused by immigrants just doesn't stand up.”
I didn’t say that it was fundamentally caused by immigrants. What I am saying is that when you have a problem with housing (and indeed all the public services in general that need to be provided for an ever-increasing population) it makes absolutely no sense to allow a quarter of a million extra people to settle here each year. There is not much to be done about natural population growth among those already here. But importing huge numbers of people can be tackled.
The fact that only 2% of land is devoted to housing means nothing. There are huge swathes of the country where people are squeezed in like sardines. They don’t come here to live on the North Yorkshire Moors; the want to live in London, Manchester, Newcastle and all the big conurbations. There is no reason why enormous amounts of taxpayers’ dosh should be used to accommodate their wishes.
Quite so, Mikey, and I explained in an earlier answer why I believe this should be. The country needs to move away from a model that provides huge subsidies for housing and that was the idea of selling off council homes.
“The idea that this is all fundamentally caused by immigrants just doesn't stand up.”
I didn’t say that it was fundamentally caused by immigrants. What I am saying is that when you have a problem with housing (and indeed all the public services in general that need to be provided for an ever-increasing population) it makes absolutely no sense to allow a quarter of a million extra people to settle here each year. There is not much to be done about natural population growth among those already here. But importing huge numbers of people can be tackled.
The fact that only 2% of land is devoted to housing means nothing. There are huge swathes of the country where people are squeezed in like sardines. They don’t come here to live on the North Yorkshire Moors; the want to live in London, Manchester, Newcastle and all the big conurbations. There is no reason why enormous amounts of taxpayers’ dosh should be used to accommodate their wishes.
“They were not middle aged they were young 20s.
There were 6 or 7 of them inside the shop and all with young children, it was just after 9am so they had just dropped off the older kids at school. One said ''we are getting out of Europe, so all you Immigrants will have to go home'' . The others responded by clapping and cheering. The one who had spoken then asked the shopkeeper for cigarettes but ''can I pay when I get my benefit?''
The people in the voting queue were mainly of pension age , but were talking loudly about voting out to get rid of the effing immigrants.“
It sounds like an episode of shameless and to think they then begged for credit and bullied the poor shopkeeper Who must have been embarrassed and cowering with fear from that racist mob.
I sincerely hope you gave them a severe reprimanding and told them “ This is the Uk, not the southern states in 1769
There were 6 or 7 of them inside the shop and all with young children, it was just after 9am so they had just dropped off the older kids at school. One said ''we are getting out of Europe, so all you Immigrants will have to go home'' . The others responded by clapping and cheering. The one who had spoken then asked the shopkeeper for cigarettes but ''can I pay when I get my benefit?''
The people in the voting queue were mainly of pension age , but were talking loudly about voting out to get rid of the effing immigrants.“
It sounds like an episode of shameless and to think they then begged for credit and bullied the poor shopkeeper Who must have been embarrassed and cowering with fear from that racist mob.
I sincerely hope you gave them a severe reprimanding and told them “ This is the Uk, not the southern states in 1769
