Help Needed With Date (Approx) Please.

[ferlew]

Hoping this works,
Mr F's family state that this is Mr F's Dad, 1906 to 1971, I know very little of this sort of thing, but this uniform and the picture in general looks much too old to be him.
Any Military Historians that can possibly date this from the uniform alone please?
My thoughts are possibly a grandad or later generation. It makes them a tad annoyed when I question the dates on this.

[IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/308is1j.jpg[/IMG]

[ferlew]

I just knew it would be wrong. :(

[murraymints]

link wont work

[Zacs-Master]

http://i67.tinypic.com/308is1j.jpg

[jim360]

http://i67.tinypic.com/308is1j.jpg

[ferlew]

Many thanks Zacs Master :)

[dannyk13]

The image seems to be of someone in a dress uniform, so the dates could well be correct.

[Zacs-Master]

It looks slightly non British to me. Mid European even.
This might help:
http://www.rfc-rnas-raf-register.org.uk/British%20Military%20Uniform%20Identification%20Service.htm

[ferlew]

If it helps, Mr F's sister says he was in the 12th Royal Lancers.

[jim360]

It might help if you knew what military service and country he (Mr F's Dad) is meant to have been from/in. I agree that it looks older than a mid 1920s-era photo, but couldn't say that with confidence.

[Old_Geezer]

For future reference, you don't require the square brackets nor the img, /img. Use them and it's no longer recognised as a link. You do, however, need the http:// or https://

[jim360]

Try searching for him here:

https://www.9th12thlancersmuseum.org/search/entities

On the face of it the picture certainly *is* of something in the 12th Lancers though. Compare with this image:

https://pastview-assets.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/org/15/site/img/personnel.jpg?3893058407

[Old_Geezer]

Uniform seems to vary, but could be https://www.google.co.uk/search?sclient=tablet-gws&dcr=0&biw=900&bih=745&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=12th+Royal+Lancers+dress+uniform+1920&;oq=12th+Royal+Lancers+dress+uniform+1920&gs_l=tablet-gws.12...2047.4422.0.5884.5.5.0.0.0.0.157.426.4j1.5.0....0...1c.1.64.tablet-gws..0.0.0....0.KV9elWiZ27Q

[jim360]

Or this one:

https://www.9th12thlancersmuseum.org/archive/individual-photographs/9-12l-box-10/109001-dbyrl-2010-6-2ajpg#prettyPhoto/0/

[dannyk13]

The helmet would suggest that it is the uniform of a lancer.

[dannyk13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Royal_Lancers

[ferlew]

Thanks for answers to date, just been rooting around an old box and have found a little more info.
Army Certificate of Education, dated October 1926. Trooper 'Mr F Dad' of the XII Royal Lancers, (P of W.s) Assume this means Prince of Wales?

[Peter Pedant]

Hmm interesting question
first of all oral historians cant stand those of a more scientific evidential frame of mind, and get really heated as you are saying that old uncle Jack is a damned liar etc etc

and
formal military dress ( or mess dress) is hardly ever contemporary - so unless they change the dress, dating is hard within 50y.
kinda unlike architeccture.
( kinda also like coins being so imp9ortant in dating archeological strata - sorry that makes sense to me)

so.... the back of the photo may help ( the decoration of the paper it is printed on IS up to date and therefore dateable)
and the style... and
I have 1920 photos of servicemen who are photographed in a woody landscape that you show

interesting question - when can styles date something and when can they not....I wear a rowing blazer and add ons - and intentionally look as tho I have stepped out of the 1860s

Georgian mugs have been made for 200y so if you show womeone one, and ask it is Georgian? they should say hold on I will look at the hallmark .....

[Peter Pedant]

you have independent dating
and it could be 1926 the photo I mean

[ferlew]

I'm afraid the photo is not an original, not sure who has that now, it was taken to a studio to be copied some 30 years ago.