What Would You Do

[sandyrocky]

what would you do if a person bribes you?

don't compare this sictuation with me okay!sometimes questions just pop in my mind and i ask it.

[woofgang]

refuse.

[jackthehat]

This is not a section for asking questions which just 'pop into your minds'.

Try posting the contents of your head in the Chatterbank section....

[woofgang]

As this question is in law....little true story. My late husband worked in the oil industry and was privy to information of great industrial and business value. Serious value. He came home to me one day looking shocked and said that a business colleague of his who worked in a different company and who came to our house to dinner parties had offered him a bribe for information. Basically he could name his price....and the bloke opened negotiations by offering him a new Lamborgini. The bloke said that cash would be difficult to manage but sports car...Roller...new house even could be provided for the info. My husband refused and the bloke in question was never invited to our house again. I have a feeling my husband also made some quiet comments to his boss but there was of course no proof.
Many years later and in an unrelated incident, it came out that other people had not been so honest and about 4 people who we knew went to prison. They had always appeared to be a bit better off than us but not amazingly so...but you know...bigger house, new car every year, kids in private school, wife had nice jewellery and so on. Turns out that "someone" had been caught defrauding the company and taken everyone else down with him or her.
Just remember that when you take the bribe the person who bribed you now has control of you.

[Peter Pedant]

christ woofie

now against the Bribery Act
the asnwer just popped into my mind and I said it
s2 - passive bribery - being bribed

triable by summary jurisdiction or jury trial
(jury trial allows greater punishment)

this is a statement of English law

[woofgang]

I know.....I can remember feeling utter disbelief when DH came home and told me and then years later less utter disbelief when the second lot came to light. Funniest bit is that shortly before there were the early morning knocks on doors by the boys in blue, (yes it really happened) we knew a neighbour of one of the naughty ones) the company closed some offices in Europe. This was long before the age of electronic documentation and cloud storage and much old paperwork was shredded.....You will NEVER guess who was in charge of the shredding operation!

[Peter Pedant]

oh the hospital told the staff to erase documents
so that there was only one draft we all sang from

and I said - can I have that in writing please wivva signature at the bottom

and they said - oh well dont then !

I had practice in document destruction and was rather soft on it and then saw a colleague swearing on oath the opposite (to what the shredded docs showed)
which kinda hardened my attitude to this sort of thing

I later alleged perjury which kinda fixed my career permanento and became a very mouthy union rep

[Peter Pedant]

to be honest -
sounz like Samlesbury BAE
they closed S and said it was nothing to do with the bribes paid by the Dutch so that S didnt get the contract but the Dutch competitor did.

my arriss

[gness]

That's interesting, Woof.....MrG worked in the oil industry and the house, car and boat off the coast of California he was "offered" from another company were also turned down..... :-)

[woofgang]

I think that taking a business bribe could aways be listed under "conspiracy to defraud"
I have no exciting stories from my time in the NHS but I wasn't in the part where messing up risks killing people.

And yes....I always used to tell junior staff that if someone asks/tells them to do something they aren't happy with, even if its me, then always get the request put in writing and signed....you may lose your job but you probably won't end up in jail.

[woofgang]

gness, can you remember....was it to do with oil spinning?

[gness]

No, Woof.....it was long ago and to do with something he'd designed for the oil industry and had the most knowledge of at the time..both of its manufacture and correct use within the industry......

Another company wanted him and his knowledge and were prepared to pay big to get their hands on both....

It was actually the reason for a burglary at our house one night.....I recall the police telling me after the investigation.......They didn't get what they came for so they'll probably be back.....be careful... :-)

[woofgang]

that must have been truly frightening

[gness]

Strangely, returning home late to find we'd been burgled wasn't....it became an amusing night.....
Being told later that they'd perhaps be back was a little unnerving as I was in a new, strange country with a husband away on business much of the time.....
I kept a cricket bat by the bed.... :-)

[Quoi]

I have been asked many times to name my price for a copy of a competitors data - sometimes joking and somtimes not.
I hold data from hundreds of companies and the value of it is very high to a competitor.
If I was tempted even once it would be the last bit of business I did if anyone found out.
next year Rodney... Maybe next year.