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No Mention Of This From Sky Or The Bbc
The BBC or Sky haven't mentioned this.
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Just somebody practising Webbo? I suppose it is only treated as serious if the designated perpetrators are involved when it comes to "official" news .
18:59 Tue 06th Mar 2018
fiction-factory, //They did say the matter wasn't terrorism related- but i don't know why they bother because that usually leads to "well they would say that wouldn't they" comments from those in the know//
Responses like that don’t come necessarily from those in the know, just from people who can’t think of a legitimate reason for making a nail bomb. I’m one of those.
Responses like that don’t come necessarily from those in the know, just from people who can’t think of a legitimate reason for making a nail bomb. I’m one of those.
Okay Naomi. I think you know I really meant those who think they can't be fooled by what they see as a police/establishment (BBC/Sky/(and MSM?) cover up. Are you saying the police deliberately lie? If so is it because they have enquiries to complete or do some on here think there is a more worrying motive- a conspiracy of some sort?
I think any suggestions of a nail bomb are worrying and this case is puzzling- however small it may have been- but I don't see what good it can do posting 'nudge nudge wink wink- MSM cover up- you can't fool me' threads on AnswerBank.
I think any suggestions of a nail bomb are worrying and this case is puzzling- however small it may have been- but I don't see what good it can do posting 'nudge nudge wink wink- MSM cover up- you can't fool me' threads on AnswerBank.
fiction-factory, In saying //the incident was not being treated as terror-related// I would ask why, if enquiries haven’t been completed, that possibility has been discounted? I think, given the opportunity, the police deliberately downplay any suggestion of terrorism - as do sections of the media – and some of the posters here.
//Are you saying the police deliberately lie?//
Yup, quite often. There are many cases of late where they have been shown to hide the truth.
The Leicester "incident" was clearly not someone with 1/2 gallon of four star, something far more sinister was going on there to cause an explosion like that.
It is the same with the 'Russian incident'. We are told that there is no risk to the public on one hand but then on the other they dont know what caused it. How can you say there is no risk if you have no idea of the cause of the problem?
Every time now "not terror related" is trotted out well before anyone could possible be certain. The Police are simply not credible anymore.
Yup, quite often. There are many cases of late where they have been shown to hide the truth.
The Leicester "incident" was clearly not someone with 1/2 gallon of four star, something far more sinister was going on there to cause an explosion like that.
It is the same with the 'Russian incident'. We are told that there is no risk to the public on one hand but then on the other they dont know what caused it. How can you say there is no risk if you have no idea of the cause of the problem?
Every time now "not terror related" is trotted out well before anyone could possible be certain. The Police are simply not credible anymore.
Ymb,
The police did not lie about the Leicester explosion. It was not terror related, only in your imagination is it sinister. There was certainly criminality involved, hence the charges. Even small amounts of stored petrol can cause a big explosion.
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The police are not lying about the poisoned Russian either. They will not tell us everything because of national security, but they can say the general population is safe because they know that the victims were targetted, and not random members of the public.
The police did not lie about the Leicester explosion. It was not terror related, only in your imagination is it sinister. There was certainly criminality involved, hence the charges. Even small amounts of stored petrol can cause a big explosion.
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The police are not lying about the poisoned Russian either. They will not tell us everything because of national security, but they can say the general population is safe because they know that the victims were targetted, and not random members of the public.
naomi24
I do not understand your reasoning.
After an explosion, the police and fire brigade will try to find the cause as quickly as possible. They will not discount the possibility of a bomb factory or terrorist link before establishing that there isn’t a link. The fire brigade will know quickly that it was a petrol fire. The police and the security services can quickly check communications to estabish or eliminate a terror connection.
If there was a terror connection, the authorities would not hide it. They never have before. They would be all over it, arresting their friends and associates.
Talk of sinister cover ups belong to conspiracy theory crackpots, I’m surprised at some ABers wanting to believe it in this case.
I do not understand your reasoning.
After an explosion, the police and fire brigade will try to find the cause as quickly as possible. They will not discount the possibility of a bomb factory or terrorist link before establishing that there isn’t a link. The fire brigade will know quickly that it was a petrol fire. The police and the security services can quickly check communications to estabish or eliminate a terror connection.
If there was a terror connection, the authorities would not hide it. They never have before. They would be all over it, arresting their friends and associates.
Talk of sinister cover ups belong to conspiracy theory crackpots, I’m surprised at some ABers wanting to believe it in this case.
Gromit it takes a fair amount of petrol to cause an explosion like that. It would have stank before hand. Like I said it's not just 1/2 gallon of 4*. I am pretty sure it was terror related (ok not to blow that building out) in some way or another.
How do you know the Police are not lying about the Russian. On the inside are we? No you're not are you.
How do you know the Police are not lying about the Russian. On the inside are we? No you're not are you.
AOG
I have not said anything about the grooming gangs, so please stop putting words into my mouth.
On that subject, there were many cases, and I do not think you can generally say the police covered it up. Their response was not up to scratch, but neither were anyone elses. After an IPCC investigation and report, Greater Manchester Police, who were resposible for policing Rochdale said // "there was a strong target driven focus, predominantly on serious acquisitive crime. At best this was distracting for police leaders and influenced the areas that resources were focussed on". //
You might find this report worth reading.
The initial police respose was very poor, but the second investigation, Operation Span, was very thorough and led to the groomers being jailed. So the opposite of a cover up is what really occurred.
I have not said anything about the grooming gangs, so please stop putting words into my mouth.
On that subject, there were many cases, and I do not think you can generally say the police covered it up. Their response was not up to scratch, but neither were anyone elses. After an IPCC investigation and report, Greater Manchester Police, who were resposible for policing Rochdale said // "there was a strong target driven focus, predominantly on serious acquisitive crime. At best this was distracting for police leaders and influenced the areas that resources were focussed on". //
You might find this report worth reading.
The initial police respose was very poor, but the second investigation, Operation Span, was very thorough and led to the groomers being jailed. So the opposite of a cover up is what really occurred.
//"there was a strong target driven focus, predominantly on serious acquisitive crime. At best this was distracting for police leaders and influenced the areas that resources were focussed on".//
Yep that's what we are on about. Plod was being pc driven by the Liberaces and ignored, or was "focusing", on people who had a bit of dosh. No doubt happy to do so, taking into account their collective envy and desire themselves to be well off at our expense.
Yep that's what we are on about. Plod was being pc driven by the Liberaces and ignored, or was "focusing", on people who had a bit of dosh. No doubt happy to do so, taking into account their collective envy and desire themselves to be well off at our expense.
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